1 00:00:08,629 --> 00:00:02,240 you're locked into inception radio 2 00:00:13,430 --> 00:00:08,639 network superior Wisconsin aliens to 3 00:00:18,859 --> 00:00:13,440 ghosts demons acres from shadow people 4 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:18,869 through the outlandish heidi hollis the 5 00:00:48,100 --> 00:00:44,360 welcome welcome everybody to my awesome 6 00:00:52,490 --> 00:00:48,110 friday evening it's Halloween whoo 7 00:00:56,180 --> 00:00:52,500 spooky time and OMG this weather where 8 00:01:00,290 --> 00:00:56,190 I'm at in Chicago is proving to be a 9 00:01:03,020 --> 00:01:00,300 horror let's put it that way but I want 10 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:03,030 to tell you guys first of all you are 11 00:01:06,980 --> 00:01:04,890 listen to me honey how's the outlander 12 00:01:09,499 --> 00:01:06,990 welcome to the show put your feet up get 13 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:09,509 comfortable and i'ma tell you this shows 14 00:01:12,770 --> 00:01:11,040 about bringing outlandish and 15 00:01:14,719 --> 00:01:12,780 interesting topics to the forefront from 16 00:01:16,190 --> 00:01:14,729 aliens angels ghosts demons holy 17 00:01:19,249 --> 00:01:16,200 encounter shadow people to Bigfoot to 18 00:01:21,529 --> 00:01:19,259 the outlandish always say if it's weird 19 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:21,539 we're here and now you are too because 20 00:01:25,430 --> 00:01:23,310 it's Halloween why did you guys out 21 00:01:27,620 --> 00:01:25,440 trick-or-treating or something I think 22 00:01:31,130 --> 00:01:27,630 the trick or treaters got wiped away 23 00:01:34,430 --> 00:01:31,140 today because man i cannot even describe 24 00:01:37,310 --> 00:01:34,440 to you what is going on outside it's 25 00:01:42,139 --> 00:01:37,320 it's just the strangest stuff i mean 26 00:01:45,730 --> 00:01:42,149 snow sleet rain and wet 60 mile-per-hour 27 00:01:48,109 --> 00:01:45,740 winds coming off from Lake Michigan and 28 00:01:49,940 --> 00:01:48,119 splashing onto Lake Shore Drive where 29 00:01:52,370 --> 00:01:49,950 they had to shut it down I mean it's 30 00:01:55,940 --> 00:01:52,380 just a crazy nightmare I think we're 31 00:01:56,810 --> 00:01:55,950 sinking perhaps I don't know but I want 32 00:01:59,450 --> 00:01:56,820 to tell you guys a little bit about 33 00:02:01,850 --> 00:01:59,460 myself but it comes with outlandish I 34 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:01,860 don't care if you've had visions of 35 00:02:08,090 --> 00:02:05,369 Jesus had shadow people harassing you or 36 00:02:11,060 --> 00:02:08,100 the hat man is knocking at your freaking 37 00:02:12,830 --> 00:02:11,070 door I always say I'm someone who has 38 00:02:14,210 --> 00:02:12,840 been there seen that experience it 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:14,220 freaked out found some answers wrote 40 00:02:17,870 --> 00:02:15,810 about it got over it and now I'm hoping 41 00:02:20,420 --> 00:02:17,880 to help others do the same thing and 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:20,430 understand this freakish world of ours 43 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:23,010 if you want I will give you the option 44 00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:27,000 go to my main website which is heidi 45 00:02:32,270 --> 00:02:30,540 hollis dot-com you'll discover things 46 00:02:34,460 --> 00:02:32,280 there about me that even my own parents 47 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:34,470 don't know but now they're listening so 48 00:02:40,250 --> 00:02:38,640 maybe they do don't oh I don't know have 49 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:40,260 they seen my website I don't know if 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:43,170 I've shown them that I want to tell you 51 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:44,730 guys to I know a lot of you guys listen 52 00:02:51,530 --> 00:02:47,090 to the awesome irn app the app is 53 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:51,540 fantastic get it own it love it and if 54 00:02:54,290 --> 00:02:53,730 you want you can also listen to this 55 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:54,300 show 56 00:03:00,920 --> 00:02:57,890 but just calling a simple number 401 283 57 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:00,930 6700 and I give you guys the option to 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:02,910 call into the show though I know most of 59 00:03:08,210 --> 00:03:04,850 you are listening at your leisure 60 00:03:12,380 --> 00:03:08,220 whenever you feel like it and that's 61 00:03:14,270 --> 00:03:12,390 okay i will allow that but if you want 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:14,280 to feel free to call and ask us some 63 00:03:20,380 --> 00:03:18,090 questions 1 888 919 2355 or you can 64 00:03:24,110 --> 00:03:20,390 skype your comments and questions to 65 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:24,120 inception radio network i'm in the chat 66 00:03:27,140 --> 00:03:25,170 room i don't know where you guys are at 67 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:27,150 but my buddies are all up in there hey 68 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:29,820 what's going on everybody's very very 69 00:03:33,980 --> 00:03:32,130 cool and friendly and they won't bite 70 00:03:36,260 --> 00:03:33,990 you i promise long as you don't long as 71 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:36,270 you don't act up okay and then i stick 72 00:03:42,460 --> 00:03:38,910 them on you and i want to tell you guys 73 00:03:45,490 --> 00:03:42,470 to i welcome you all to send in your 74 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:45,500 questions and paranormal stories and 75 00:03:50,750 --> 00:03:47,730 curiosities about anything really 76 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:50,760 concerning odd topics i usually do at 77 00:03:56,540 --> 00:03:53,310 the beginning of my show what i call the 78 00:03:57,950 --> 00:03:56,550 outlandish corner mm-hmm outlandish 79 00:04:00,440 --> 00:03:57,960 corner that's where I'm answering your 80 00:04:02,990 --> 00:04:00,450 awesome emails and do my best to give 81 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:03,000 you some sort of advice I don't know how 82 00:04:09,380 --> 00:04:05,450 that happens but I do I'm not psychic I 83 00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:09,390 just I'm just weird um and painfully 84 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:12,840 honest but it's okay i promise i won't 85 00:04:17,690 --> 00:04:14,910 rip you apart or anything like that but 86 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:17,700 write me at dusk das Outlander @ 87 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:20,250 gmail.com or you could also go to my 88 00:04:24,050 --> 00:04:22,230 facebook page put one in fried up in 89 00:04:25,580 --> 00:04:24,060 front of heidi hollis or you could also 90 00:04:27,950 --> 00:04:25,590 people send me these little itty bitty 91 00:04:31,730 --> 00:04:27,960 questions to twitter which is at one 92 00:04:33,710 --> 00:04:31,740 heidi hollis which is fine by me oh my 93 00:04:38,030 --> 00:04:33,720 gosh you guys you have no idea i've got 94 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:38,040 a fantastic guest on this evening just 95 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:40,890 in time for halloween boo i can't do a 96 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:42,960 good voice maybe Joe can he's kind of 97 00:04:49,310 --> 00:04:47,250 creepy just kidding that's evil of me 98 00:04:52,159 --> 00:04:49,320 chose a nice guy I just like picking on 99 00:04:54,020 --> 00:04:52,169 him um but Jose escamilla and i'm going 100 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:54,030 to introduce him here he's got this 101 00:05:00,200 --> 00:04:58,050 fantastic bio Jose escamilla is a world 102 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:00,210 renowned filmmaker and UFO investigator 103 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:02,850 he's known for his discovery of the rods 104 00:05:07,610 --> 00:05:04,800 phenomenon and numerous discoveries and 105 00:05:07,970 --> 00:05:07,620 documentaries on the full color of the 106 00:05:10,730 --> 00:05:07,980 moon 107 00:05:13,070 --> 00:05:10,740 his controversial films UFO the greatest 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:13,080 story ever denied moon rising 109 00:05:17,770 --> 00:05:15,810 interstellar and celestial are among the 110 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:17,780 few of his many documentaries that 111 00:05:23,330 --> 00:05:20,490 present of the subject of UFOs and moon 112 00:05:25,730 --> 00:05:23,340 mysteries like none other in the world 113 00:05:27,740 --> 00:05:25,740 he resides in southern california 114 00:05:29,630 --> 00:05:27,750 continues making thought-provoking films 115 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:29,640 presenting evidence of these realities 116 00:05:33,910 --> 00:05:31,050 for the public's enjoyment everybody 117 00:05:39,350 --> 00:05:33,920 round of applause for Jose Escamilla 118 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:39,360 they're just calm down Jose how are you 119 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:41,280 it's been a while since we chatted it's 120 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:43,170 been a while it's good to be back Holly 121 00:05:48,380 --> 00:05:45,840 yes I mean I'm tidy that's okay I get 122 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:48,390 that all day baby Hollis heidi hollis um 123 00:05:53,150 --> 00:05:50,490 yeah it's great to be back and I have a 124 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:53,160 lot to talk about oh good let's see how 125 00:05:57,260 --> 00:05:55,170 happy halloween to everybody all your 126 00:05:58,760 --> 00:05:57,270 listeners yeah that's happy halloween to 127 00:06:02,060 --> 00:05:58,770 you too did you dress up as something 128 00:06:06,620 --> 00:06:02,070 let's hear it absolutely not what he 129 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:06,630 could have been a rod okay yeah that 130 00:06:10,850 --> 00:06:08,400 could have happened my liking this 131 00:06:13,970 --> 00:06:10,860 probably is just ripped off shoes who 132 00:06:17,060 --> 00:06:13,980 was a vampire Ella and her girlfriend 133 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:17,070 was the Black Swan and their friend 134 00:06:21,140 --> 00:06:19,050 Xavier he was dressed like the Texas 135 00:06:24,050 --> 00:06:21,150 Chainsaw Massacre so that they took up 136 00:06:26,660 --> 00:06:24,060 go to a party that I could have gone to 137 00:06:28,910 --> 00:06:26,670 but I'd rather speak with you Heidi Wow 138 00:06:30,230 --> 00:06:28,920 and you know what that's fantastic and 139 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:30,240 nice of you because this is a big night 140 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:32,850 Halloween is like probably the biggest 141 00:06:37,310 --> 00:06:34,560 night for weird folks like you and I 142 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:37,320 it's all good that's true that's very 143 00:06:42,350 --> 00:06:39,930 true it is and I want to thank you 144 00:06:44,330 --> 00:06:42,360 because I I was to have you on prior and 145 00:06:46,190 --> 00:06:44,340 then things got jumbled so hey you 146 00:06:48,980 --> 00:06:46,200 landed the biggest night of the year so 147 00:06:51,710 --> 00:06:48,990 that's all Tom I'm glad I you know it's 148 00:06:54,830 --> 00:06:51,720 just great yes my goodness you know I 149 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:54,840 have to say this is a strange and this 150 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:57,060 is so not ego okay it's not Eagle people 151 00:07:02,390 --> 00:06:59,520 but you know when I think of people who 152 00:07:05,420 --> 00:07:02,400 have named a paranormal phenomenon like 153 00:07:08,060 --> 00:07:05,430 literally given something a name I know 154 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:08,070 of myself whose name shadow people in 155 00:07:14,420 --> 00:07:10,530 the hat man and I know of you who named 156 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:14,430 rods okay I don't know people living who 157 00:07:21,620 --> 00:07:16,970 named other odd things I mean to you 158 00:07:24,140 --> 00:07:21,630 know and I've also identified 159 00:07:27,170 --> 00:07:24,150 what particular type of species it may 160 00:07:30,590 --> 00:07:27,180 or may not be hmm i know i just talked 161 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:30,600 double-talk there but I definitely put 162 00:07:38,060 --> 00:07:34,290 it in its own category of phylum a 163 00:07:40,430 --> 00:07:38,070 phylum is a an order of species okay so 164 00:07:43,190 --> 00:07:40,440 like you know you've got you've got tuna 165 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:43,200 fish you've got jellyfish you've got all 166 00:07:48,130 --> 00:07:44,970 these different types of filings that 167 00:07:52,210 --> 00:07:48,140 are part you know other species but a 168 00:07:57,490 --> 00:07:52,220 scientific name is a phylum rods fit in 169 00:08:02,810 --> 00:07:57,500 a strange way as an aquatic creature 170 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:02,820 sort of like the cuttlefish okay and in 171 00:08:09,530 --> 00:08:05,730 that it has this undulatory wave fin 172 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:09,540 that along both sides of the torso that 173 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:11,810 propels it or that makes it swim 174 00:08:20,210 --> 00:08:15,570 extremely fast in the water and also it 175 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:20,220 swims in nice and air well it's an 176 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:22,410 amazing thing whatever it is but I 177 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:24,510 believe it's a species of some kind and 178 00:08:32,089 --> 00:08:29,610 it's unknown as far as it's a behavior 179 00:08:35,089 --> 00:08:32,099 and what it's doing here you know but 180 00:08:37,550 --> 00:08:35,099 what is known is that I've captured them 181 00:08:43,370 --> 00:08:37,560 on film and we now have brand new 182 00:08:47,980 --> 00:08:43,380 evidence that eliminates any other types 183 00:08:52,580 --> 00:08:49,970 monsterquest I don't know if anybody saw 184 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:52,590 the monster quit quest episode on now on 185 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:54,810 the rods phenomenon and myself a couple 186 00:08:59,660 --> 00:08:57,360 years back he liberally lied to people 187 00:09:01,550 --> 00:08:59,670 they did a whole show where they 188 00:09:04,730 --> 00:09:01,560 debunked the rods claiming they're 189 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:04,740 nothing but insects mr. of insects now 190 00:09:08,330 --> 00:09:06,720 of course and that created a lot of 191 00:09:11,390 --> 00:09:08,340 problems because you know Monster quest 192 00:09:14,030 --> 00:09:11,400 has millions of viewers mm-hmm and what 193 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:14,040 happened was is everybody started saying 194 00:09:19,790 --> 00:09:17,010 escamilla is hoaxing these he's passing 195 00:09:23,050 --> 00:09:19,800 insects off as rods they're nothing but 196 00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:23,060 moths and insects okay this is because 197 00:09:30,530 --> 00:09:28,620 monsterQuest decided to do the the 198 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:30,540 high-speed camera test alongside a 199 00:09:35,390 --> 00:09:34,290 camcorder at night they were supposed to 200 00:09:37,970 --> 00:09:35,400 do it in broad daylight 201 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:37,980 ight and they had this high-speed camera 202 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:40,110 alongside a regular camcorder in broad 203 00:09:44,420 --> 00:09:42,330 daylight but they went over to these 204 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:44,430 bird watchers and said well we think 205 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:46,530 that the closest thing to Raj are the 206 00:09:50,540 --> 00:09:48,930 hummingbirds you know which hummingbirds 207 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:50,550 move pretty quickly and everything else 208 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:53,510 but because hummingbirds did not show up 209 00:09:58,430 --> 00:09:56,250 that was their excuse to not do the 210 00:10:00,530 --> 00:09:58,440 daytime test and see if they would have 211 00:10:02,420 --> 00:10:00,540 done the daylight test I would have 212 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:02,430 forced them to use my skype fishing 213 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:05,850 protocol on the regular camcorder all 214 00:10:09,530 --> 00:10:07,650 right and that would eliminate that 215 00:10:11,810 --> 00:10:09,540 would eliminate insects and birds and 216 00:10:14,690 --> 00:10:11,820 everything else because using my skype 217 00:10:17,090 --> 00:10:14,700 fishing protocol it if you throw a 218 00:10:18,860 --> 00:10:17,100 baseball in front of the camera and then 219 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:18,870 you go back and go frame by frame it's 220 00:10:23,510 --> 00:10:20,730 not going to be a blurred elongated 221 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:23,520 object it's going to be a baseball okay 222 00:10:29,690 --> 00:10:25,770 and see the monster quest producers knew 223 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:29,700 this Jake you public has no clue as far 224 00:10:36,610 --> 00:10:33,930 as camera camcorder concern they did a 225 00:10:39,020 --> 00:10:36,620 whole thing what they do is they take 226 00:10:40,970 --> 00:10:39,030 your audience or the they're viewing 227 00:10:43,220 --> 00:10:40,980 audience and they fooled them then you 228 00:10:45,530 --> 00:10:43,230 know I yes so they did the test at night 229 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:45,540 and I always tell people do not shoot at 230 00:10:49,850 --> 00:10:47,730 night because it compromises the 231 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:49,860 integrity of the quality of the picture 232 00:10:53,570 --> 00:10:51,570 of course thing will be blurred because 233 00:10:55,310 --> 00:10:53,580 you have to use the lowest shutter 234 00:10:57,980 --> 00:10:55,320 setting possible in order for enough 235 00:11:00,320 --> 00:10:57,990 light to get into the camera to catch 236 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:00,330 anything and everything is blurred you 237 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:02,250 know and they knew this here's what to 238 00:11:06,740 --> 00:11:03,690 what they did is they entered the show 239 00:11:08,090 --> 00:11:06,750 by doing the high-speed camera test JQ 240 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:08,100 public is saying oh it's high speed 241 00:11:13,010 --> 00:11:10,800 camera it tells the truth and then the 242 00:11:15,470 --> 00:11:13,020 camcorder you know they compromise the 243 00:11:17,450 --> 00:11:15,480 integrity of it so naturally they did 244 00:11:20,090 --> 00:11:17,460 you know the put moths in front of it 245 00:11:22,010 --> 00:11:20,100 and they they created a rod look at 246 00:11:24,860 --> 00:11:22,020 looking effect and on the high-speed 247 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:24,870 camera all you see is a real moth which 248 00:11:29,660 --> 00:11:28,050 is like yogi cool but they they fooled 249 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:29,670 the people because I wouldn't have had 250 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:31,650 him do the night test at all I would 251 00:11:35,810 --> 00:11:33,360 have forced him to do the daytime test 252 00:11:37,820 --> 00:11:35,820 but they did not consult with me they 253 00:11:41,260 --> 00:11:37,830 also took a lot of the hard evidence 254 00:11:44,420 --> 00:11:41,270 like I have footage of rods under water 255 00:11:46,250 --> 00:11:44,430 filter got footage of rods coming in and 256 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:46,260 out of the water and why they had that 257 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:48,330 what the narrator said they said it's 258 00:11:50,980 --> 00:11:49,170 probably a 259 00:11:54,620 --> 00:11:50,990 ish then they go to the next clip 260 00:11:57,650 --> 00:11:54,630 probably a bug you know i mean the space 261 00:12:00,379 --> 00:11:57,660 footage all right of Rods coming in to 262 00:12:03,889 --> 00:12:00,389 earth and coming out of Earth taken by 263 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:03,899 the Space Shuttle the narrator wrote it 264 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:08,010 off as debris probably debris but if it 265 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:09,570 would if they would have done an 266 00:12:14,569 --> 00:12:12,570 in-depth analysis of that footage they 267 00:12:18,439 --> 00:12:14,579 would have found out that NASA filled 268 00:12:20,180 --> 00:12:18,449 all this using ultraviolet cameras which 269 00:12:22,970 --> 00:12:20,190 film things that are invisible to the 270 00:12:24,590 --> 00:12:22,980 naked eye all right all right these rods 271 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:24,600 were filmed with ultraviolet and 272 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:28,970 infrared cameras from the shuttle and 273 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:31,170 they're invisible I mean you wouldn't 274 00:12:35,420 --> 00:12:32,610 have seen him with a regular camera and 275 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:35,430 also they did not tell the public about 276 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:37,050 that clip because they just ran it off 277 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:39,870 as debris but uh the shuttle is 278 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:43,110 travelling at 17,500 miles an hour so 279 00:12:47,930 --> 00:12:46,050 these camera is capturing objects in the 280 00:12:50,329 --> 00:12:47,940 ultraviolet and infrared zone which is 281 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:50,339 total invisibility to us they're 282 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:53,370 capturing him as the cameras travelling 283 00:13:02,569 --> 00:12:56,730 at 17,500 miles an hour these objects 284 00:13:04,730 --> 00:13:02,579 are have their own flight paths ok so 285 00:13:09,130 --> 00:13:04,740 it's amazing what these things are doing 286 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:09,140 we now have footage of them on Mars Wow 287 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:12,240 yes and this was taken by the rover I 288 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:14,610 have three shots that I'm going to put 289 00:13:19,730 --> 00:13:16,649 in my film I'm making the film it's 290 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:19,740 called they live in the skies like that 291 00:13:24,699 --> 00:13:22,050 the rods phenomena this is going to be 292 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:24,709 the biggest film because we now have 293 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:28,350 high-speed super-slow motion footage of 294 00:13:35,449 --> 00:13:32,310 rods you've taken with one one shot was 295 00:13:38,449 --> 00:13:35,459 taken by the epic red cam and it's 200 296 00:13:39,980 --> 00:13:38,459 frames per second and its high 297 00:13:42,910 --> 00:13:39,990 resolution as the highest resolution 298 00:13:45,769 --> 00:13:42,920 that you get on a camera it's 4k 299 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:45,779 resolution which is the quality of an 300 00:13:51,439 --> 00:13:48,569 IMAX film I mean a super super high 301 00:13:53,660 --> 00:13:51,449 resolution footage and slow motion and 302 00:13:55,639 --> 00:13:53,670 there's a rod that flies through the guy 303 00:13:58,340 --> 00:13:55,649 that filmed it the guy that filmed the 304 00:14:01,009 --> 00:13:58,350 rod was calling in a UFO at first he 305 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:01,019 wants to sell it for 25 thousand dollars 306 00:14:05,470 --> 00:14:01,970 this is 307 00:14:08,530 --> 00:14:05,480 monks yeah he says uh he he films a lot 308 00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:08,540 of high-speed footage and he sells it 309 00:14:16,079 --> 00:14:11,600 for 20 to 25 30 thousand dollars to 310 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:16,089 people that are into the 4k uh oh 311 00:14:22,449 --> 00:14:19,040 quality footage so he's got this rod 312 00:14:25,569 --> 00:14:22,459 shot and I contacted him and I said man 313 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:25,579 I can't afford to pay 25,000 shoot man 314 00:14:30,819 --> 00:14:27,470 that's I could make five movies with 315 00:14:32,769 --> 00:14:30,829 that money you know so uh I talked him 316 00:14:35,139 --> 00:14:32,779 into it and he said look I'm gonna 317 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:35,149 license the footage for you to put in 318 00:14:38,980 --> 00:14:36,649 your film they live in the skies he says 319 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:38,990 because I feel is important now for 320 00:14:43,379 --> 00:14:40,970 twenty five hundred dollars so i can get 321 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:43,389 my hands on that footage for 2500 and 322 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:48,290 it's 24 p okay what that means it's shot 323 00:14:54,910 --> 00:14:51,769 at 24 frames per second not interlaced 324 00:14:58,749 --> 00:14:54,920 video okay which is a big thing that the 325 00:15:01,269 --> 00:14:58,759 bunkers use to try to smoke away the 326 00:15:04,329 --> 00:15:01,279 rods by interlaced video causing the 327 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:04,339 effect you know was gonna say Jose when 328 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:06,410 it comes to these so-called paranormal 329 00:15:11,740 --> 00:15:08,240 shows I think they should be called like 330 00:15:14,799 --> 00:15:11,750 I don't know debunker quest the bunking 331 00:15:18,699 --> 00:15:14,809 phenomena or because it I don't 332 00:15:21,340 --> 00:15:18,709 understand why they feel they always 333 00:15:23,740 --> 00:15:21,350 always have to give the opposing 334 00:15:25,809 --> 00:15:23,750 position the opposing position is this 335 00:15:28,269 --> 00:15:25,819 it's like but they give the opposing 336 00:15:31,509 --> 00:15:28,279 position the most time and the most 337 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:31,519 equipment and opportunity to edit things 338 00:15:35,949 --> 00:15:33,860 I mean to say and address what's going 339 00:15:38,710 --> 00:15:35,959 on I mean I've had the experience where 340 00:15:40,660 --> 00:15:38,720 you know I've been on chosen and you 341 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:40,670 know I that's one more reason it wasn't 342 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:43,250 it was it was pretty good i mean i like 343 00:15:49,540 --> 00:15:45,889 the unexplained files but you know they 344 00:15:52,090 --> 00:15:49,550 asked me Heidi how is how many shadow 345 00:15:54,699 --> 00:15:52,100 people phenomenon have you looked into 346 00:15:57,970 --> 00:15:54,709 and I'm like thousands on the show they 347 00:16:01,809 --> 00:15:57,980 said Heidi house has investigated dozens 348 00:16:03,579 --> 00:16:01,819 of em like dozens just you know it's 349 00:16:06,939 --> 00:16:03,589 those little things that you just like 350 00:16:09,639 --> 00:16:06,949 wow white why take that editorial you 351 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:09,649 know power to change that little bit and 352 00:16:15,340 --> 00:16:12,889 then it was you know heidi hollis says 353 00:16:15,940 --> 00:16:15,350 that that no one has taken a photo of 354 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:15,950 shadow p 355 00:16:20,530 --> 00:16:18,710 I'm like no I didn't say that and 356 00:16:22,510 --> 00:16:20,540 they're like do I know perhaps we have 357 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:22,520 the first photo of shadow people I'm 358 00:16:26,950 --> 00:16:25,370 like oh it's to give them credit okay I 359 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:26,960 got you know it's it's those little 360 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:29,090 things it didn't hurt me you know but 361 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:31,970 it's I don't understand you know I don't 362 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:34,370 know many researchers and authors and 363 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:37,130 and filmmakers as yourself that that 364 00:16:40,740 --> 00:16:38,810 focus on these paranormal things that 365 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:40,750 haven't been through the experience of 366 00:16:47,620 --> 00:16:44,330 you know these editorial powers being 367 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:47,630 put in place where they have no say and 368 00:16:52,210 --> 00:16:49,310 it's in your contract you know you don't 369 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:52,220 have you can't edit or you cannot have a 370 00:16:56,830 --> 00:16:55,730 say-so over how they present it exactly 371 00:16:59,440 --> 00:16:56,840 yeah it's like I think they're gonna 372 00:17:01,480 --> 00:16:59,450 start losing a lot of people who won't 373 00:17:04,660 --> 00:17:01,490 want to come forward and share their 374 00:17:07,540 --> 00:17:04,670 material because it's just a debunking 375 00:17:10,329 --> 00:17:07,550 fest I mean and it's it's a shame it's a 376 00:17:13,420 --> 00:17:10,339 shame well you know on my case with a 377 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:13,430 master quest show they paid me five 378 00:17:18,730 --> 00:17:15,890 thousand dollars okay I needed the money 379 00:17:21,130 --> 00:17:18,740 and they know that it's good money hey 380 00:17:23,020 --> 00:17:21,140 promise that they were gonna do right by 381 00:17:24,430 --> 00:17:23,030 me okay they said we'll present all your 382 00:17:26,980 --> 00:17:24,440 evidence and they did present it they 383 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:26,990 just glossed over it yeah lost over the 384 00:17:32,350 --> 00:17:28,910 evidence they didn't go into details 385 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:32,360 about it they had a stupid Rob model 386 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:33,770 they made and they put it in a wind 387 00:17:39,420 --> 00:17:36,880 tunnel it was just a you know a rubber 388 00:17:44,140 --> 00:17:39,430 membrane thing on the sides of this 389 00:17:46,030 --> 00:17:44,150 round stick and they said well it won't 390 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:46,040 fly you know that's the propulsion 391 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:48,650 method that escamilla says with undue 392 00:17:55,660 --> 00:17:51,830 litoria wave fans this proves that they 393 00:17:57,850 --> 00:17:55,670 won't fly but I sent them models Oh rod 394 00:18:00,250 --> 00:17:57,860 models that do fly that had the same 395 00:18:02,110 --> 00:18:00,260 proposin man but they did not do that 396 00:18:04,690 --> 00:18:02,120 these were made by Emma and MIT 397 00:18:07,030 --> 00:18:04,700 scientists really and they didn't use 398 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:07,040 them why would ya well because it would 399 00:18:12,370 --> 00:18:10,310 affect their their yes about this is not 400 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:12,380 able to fly and their position their 401 00:18:18,850 --> 00:18:16,250 angle I gotcha yeah and then and then 402 00:18:21,460 --> 00:18:18,860 they go and talk to an entomologist the 403 00:18:23,890 --> 00:18:21,470 father of entomology mmm but but they 404 00:18:26,860 --> 00:18:23,900 screwed up because Robin wooden is his 405 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:26,870 name he's out of exeter university in 406 00:18:32,990 --> 00:18:29,930 London he goes in there and he says 407 00:18:35,930 --> 00:18:33,000 these are insects but this is not an 408 00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:35,940 insect he said I don't I know of he this 409 00:18:40,550 --> 00:18:38,400 is the godfather of insects guys I mean 410 00:18:42,890 --> 00:18:40,560 he's the go-to guy when you want to find 411 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:42,900 out the curious thing is here I've been 412 00:18:49,910 --> 00:18:45,510 trying to prove that Roger not insects 413 00:18:52,690 --> 00:18:49,920 hmm but dr. wooden who's the master I 414 00:18:56,540 --> 00:18:52,700 mean he's the guy he's the go-to guy he 415 00:19:00,380 --> 00:18:56,550 commissioned the college people there at 416 00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:00,390 Exeter to build him a model of what he 417 00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:03,120 feels is the prehistoric ancestor of 418 00:19:07,580 --> 00:19:06,000 today's insects all right now here's 419 00:19:10,010 --> 00:19:07,590 what happened during the Big Bang of 420 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:10,020 evolution 500 million years ago life 421 00:19:14,660 --> 00:19:12,210 sprouted you know just like amoebas and 422 00:19:17,660 --> 00:19:14,670 thing like this 350 million years ago 423 00:19:20,180 --> 00:19:17,670 the Precambrian period insects appeared 424 00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:20,190 all of a sudden all over the place you 425 00:19:24,650 --> 00:19:21,270 know some we're flying somewhere 426 00:19:27,140 --> 00:19:24,660 crawling but there is no record or 427 00:19:30,620 --> 00:19:27,150 fossil record of anything that would 428 00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:30,630 remotely resemble the prehistoric 429 00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:33,510 ancestor of today's insects our study 430 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:35,460 our own study we found a creature called 431 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:38,850 animal Icarus okay which back in the 432 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:41,490 Precambrian period it was meaner than 433 00:19:47,030 --> 00:19:44,610 any shark even mega mega shark this 434 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:47,040 thing was a the the biggest predator on 435 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:48,960 top of the food chain man I mean this 436 00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:51,330 thing ate everything but guess what it 437 00:19:57,950 --> 00:19:55,110 had an undulatory wave in motion that's 438 00:20:01,490 --> 00:19:57,960 how its went through the oceans in high 439 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:01,500 speed so there are fossils but dr. 440 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:03,450 wooden see I thought that the 441 00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:05,250 prehistoric ancestor of today's insects 442 00:20:10,490 --> 00:20:07,980 would be a giant dragon fly you know 443 00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:10,500 that's what you think but know what he 444 00:20:16,610 --> 00:20:11,910 did is he built this model and guess 445 00:20:20,570 --> 00:20:16,620 what it looks like what a rod get out no 446 00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:20,580 you get out okay I'm out of here I'm 447 00:20:27,230 --> 00:20:23,520 serious so I got a bit and I want your 448 00:20:29,410 --> 00:20:27,240 listeners to check out my my monster 449 00:20:32,930 --> 00:20:29,420 quest video it's called Jose escamilla 450 00:20:36,380 --> 00:20:32,940 versus monster quest it's on my youtube 451 00:20:38,030 --> 00:20:36,390 channel has joe rogan on it and in that 452 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:38,040 you'll see the model that he built and 453 00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:41,130 it's it definitely flies I mean it 454 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:43,740 glides and then it lands but 455 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:46,110 it's a it looks like a rod man in here 456 00:20:50,299 --> 00:20:47,970 where the irony about it is we're trying 457 00:20:52,220 --> 00:20:50,309 to say they're not insects maybe these 458 00:20:56,030 --> 00:20:52,230 things are the prehistoric ancestor of 459 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:56,040 today's insects okay but the only thing 460 00:21:01,040 --> 00:20:58,530 we can't explain is how they have the 461 00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:01,050 ability to enter the ocean come out of 462 00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:04,950 the ocean enter into space and go to 463 00:21:09,470 --> 00:21:07,440 Mars I mean that we can't explain so may 464 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:09,480 not be the prehistoric ancestors of 465 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:11,910 today's insects it's just that they must 466 00:21:15,950 --> 00:21:14,250 request put this guy in there to try to 467 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:15,960 make it look like you know Roger nothing 468 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:19,050 but insects okay but they shot himself 469 00:21:23,660 --> 00:21:21,570 in the foot because he was he was 470 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:23,670 cheering me on he's saying no this is 471 00:21:28,490 --> 00:21:25,770 not an insect this is something else you 472 00:21:31,549 --> 00:21:28,500 know so he's a it was cool check out 473 00:21:34,010 --> 00:21:31,559 Jose escamilla versus Monster quest you 474 00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:34,020 know your two years ago I went to Las 475 00:21:38,810 --> 00:21:36,630 Vegas to meet with Joe Rogan because we 476 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:38,820 had just gotten underwater footage of a 477 00:21:44,780 --> 00:21:41,760 rod that's truly amazing man and it's in 478 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:44,790 that monster quest episode the episode 479 00:21:51,740 --> 00:21:47,610 that I made and I wanted Joe Rogan to 480 00:21:54,650 --> 00:21:51,750 put me on his on his pod you know iPad 481 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:54,660 show why pod whatever and instead as 482 00:21:58,100 --> 00:21:56,400 soon as I mentioned my name and what I 483 00:22:00,320 --> 00:21:58,110 do he goes all you're the guy with the 484 00:22:02,570 --> 00:22:00,330 rods I mean he knew it you know but rods 485 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:02,580 and and i'm here i'm a fan of joe 486 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:05,850 rogan's I you know it didn't destroy me 487 00:22:10,910 --> 00:22:07,650 at all you know what I feel about him 488 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:10,920 but he got food too because he based his 489 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:15,170 opinion on Monster quest Diddy yeah I 490 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,090 know but he like millions of people and 491 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:20,400 viewers were fooled by Monster quest I 492 00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:23,010 want your viewers to your listeners to 493 00:22:26,540 --> 00:22:24,720 check out Jose ischaemia versus monster 494 00:22:29,030 --> 00:22:26,550 quest and you'll see what they did the 495 00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:29,040 dirty deed that history channel and the 496 00:22:33,950 --> 00:22:31,380 producers of Master Quest did and how 497 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:33,960 they deliberately pull the wool over the 498 00:22:38,299 --> 00:22:35,850 over the people their viewers in the 499 00:22:39,890 --> 00:22:38,309 public but that's gonna end do you think 500 00:22:41,299 --> 00:22:39,900 that they're on the payroll of the 501 00:22:43,690 --> 00:22:41,309 government or something why would they 502 00:22:48,350 --> 00:22:43,700 do this okay well history channel is 503 00:22:53,390 --> 00:22:48,360 owned by USA Network's USA USA Network's 504 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:53,400 is overseen by the NSA the CIA I think 505 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:55,110 they're everything's overseen by them 506 00:23:00,020 --> 00:22:57,570 yeah you didn't know that so 507 00:23:01,820 --> 00:23:00,030 it's like that's what happens and they 508 00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:01,830 put it down the line you do it this way 509 00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:03,960 or don't do it at all you know I believe 510 00:23:11,450 --> 00:23:07,440 it yeah and here's the thing back in two 511 00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:11,460 thousand one I believe or 2002 there was 512 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:14,820 a UFO special with peter jennings about 513 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:17,520 on ABC oh i thought i was good and I go 514 00:23:20,780 --> 00:23:19,170 oh man I can't wait to see this man 515 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:20,790 Peter Jennings now that's that's 516 00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:23,010 credibility well the first hour was 517 00:23:28,370 --> 00:23:25,500 great because they presented all the 518 00:23:30,860 --> 00:23:28,380 cases about the UFOs the second hour was 519 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:30,870 full of debunkers and they debunked 520 00:23:36,020 --> 00:23:33,930 everything of course so that made me 521 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:36,030 kind of angry I'm not gonna say the word 522 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:38,970 but it made me it p owed me man hi said 523 00:23:42,860 --> 00:23:40,170 you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna 524 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:42,870 make the ultimate UFO movie I'm not 525 00:23:45,860 --> 00:23:44,370 going to include these bozos if they 526 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:45,870 want to see debunkers they can watch 527 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:47,850 Peter Jennings but I'm gonna do the 528 00:23:54,170 --> 00:23:51,090 ultimate UFO documentary that shows how 529 00:23:57,170 --> 00:23:54,180 the government back then admitted that 530 00:23:59,210 --> 00:23:57,180 UFOs were among us all right they even 531 00:24:01,580 --> 00:23:59,220 admitted that hey if you see a flying 532 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:01,590 saucer and reported to us to the 533 00:24:06,380 --> 00:24:03,810 authorities you are doing a patriotic 534 00:24:08,210 --> 00:24:06,390 thing all right but if you tell the 535 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:08,220 press we're going to ridicule you all 536 00:24:13,420 --> 00:24:11,130 right so that's when I decided to make 537 00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:13,430 UFO the greatest story ever denied and 538 00:24:19,340 --> 00:24:17,550 in it I show you I prove how the 539 00:24:23,410 --> 00:24:19,350 military and the White House and the 540 00:24:26,420 --> 00:24:23,420 Pentagon all knew that UFOs were real 541 00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:26,430 all right and it wasn't until the battle 542 00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:29,460 of Los Angeles that they took UFO 543 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:31,200 serious because here would been attacked 544 00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:35,150 11 weeks earlier at Pearl Harbor and the 545 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:38,640 newest thing in those days was radar ok 546 00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:42,570 that was the newest toy and after the 547 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:45,000 Battle of LA I mean after the Pearl 548 00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:47,970 Harbor we were afraid that the Japanese 549 00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:50,400 were going to attack Southern California 550 00:24:54,740 --> 00:24:53,310 so they had drills they had blackouts 551 00:24:58,220 --> 00:24:54,750 you know they did all sorts of things 552 00:25:03,890 --> 00:24:58,230 and on februari twenty-fifth nineteen 553 00:25:06,620 --> 00:25:03,900 forty-two a 500 foot diameter object 554 00:25:09,650 --> 00:25:06,630 came into Southern California it was 555 00:25:11,340 --> 00:25:09,660 seen on radar and they tried to shoot it 556 00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:11,350 down for about three hours 557 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:14,559 yeah with anti-aircraft shrapnel they 558 00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:15,910 couldn't bring it down and there was 559 00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:20,289 also squadrons of silver looking mystery 560 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:23,350 planes that they reported and three of 561 00:25:27,630 --> 00:25:24,880 them were shot down the mystery planes 562 00:25:30,330 --> 00:25:27,640 and I'm making the movie the battle of 563 00:25:34,380 --> 00:25:30,340 Los Angeles and in it I have the kenneth 564 00:25:36,779 --> 00:25:34,390 arnold style UFOs that are portraying 565 00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:36,789 the mystery planes because some of the 566 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:39,520 people that described it and by the way 567 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:41,410 the battle of Los Angeles is the most 568 00:25:46,919 --> 00:25:44,530 heavily documented UFO case in the 569 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:46,929 history of UFOs because the press picked 570 00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:49,090 up all the interviews the next day after 571 00:25:54,659 --> 00:25:52,480 this big giant we went to war we went to 572 00:25:56,190 --> 00:25:54,669 war upon this object so anyway they 573 00:25:58,980 --> 00:25:56,200 brought down three of these objects one 574 00:26:01,740 --> 00:25:58,990 in San Clemente one in Long Beach and 575 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:01,750 one in San Angeles forest the Army Air 576 00:26:07,409 --> 00:26:04,450 Corps picked it up the art of the Army 577 00:26:09,180 --> 00:26:07,419 Corps they picked all these objects up 578 00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:09,190 and that is said that there were two 579 00:26:16,289 --> 00:26:12,190 nine foot tall Nordic looking aliens 580 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:16,299 that were also taken int into custody by 581 00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:19,630 the military now check this out the Navy 582 00:26:25,529 --> 00:26:22,840 retrieved the San Clemente Island UFO 583 00:26:29,730 --> 00:26:25,539 the others were taken to an area a 584 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:29,740 Northern Nevada area okay they said we 585 00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:31,570 kept mention the name of this secret 586 00:26:37,169 --> 00:26:33,039 facility but it's in Northern Nevada 587 00:26:42,419 --> 00:26:37,179 what talk in area 51 was intact and was 588 00:26:44,370 --> 00:26:42,429 in use back in 1942 so yeah and a lot of 589 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:44,380 people don't realize this because a lot 590 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:45,760 of people don't even know that the 591 00:26:50,940 --> 00:26:47,650 better of Los Angeles even took place 592 00:26:53,159 --> 00:26:50,950 yeah they don't they don't but it's a it 593 00:26:57,450 --> 00:26:53,169 was actually quite a big deal and and 594 00:27:00,120 --> 00:26:57,460 you know but I just don't see how after 595 00:27:02,669 --> 00:27:00,130 so many witnesses took you know saw this 596 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:02,679 thing happening how it got hushed I just 597 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:05,590 don't get that very same morning because 598 00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:06,730 this happened at two o'clock in the 599 00:27:11,460 --> 00:27:09,039 morning do 25 in the morning yeah you 600 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:11,470 know it was dark outside but at around 601 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:13,360 eleven ten o'clock or eleven o'clock in 602 00:27:17,630 --> 00:27:15,490 the morning the Pentagon and the White 603 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:17,640 House and military naval intelligence 604 00:27:21,539 --> 00:27:20,049 they had a big press conference and they 605 00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:21,549 said it was nothing but a weather 606 00:27:24,580 --> 00:27:23,030 balloon 607 00:27:26,860 --> 00:27:24,590 at the base except they said it first 608 00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:26,870 okay and one of the news reporters 609 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:28,760 showed up this picture that the LA Times 610 00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:31,490 reporter photographed he says this does 611 00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:33,620 not look like a weather balloon and if 612 00:27:38,620 --> 00:27:35,630 our military can't bring down a weather 613 00:27:40,270 --> 00:27:38,630 balloon then they're really inept okay 614 00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:40,280 what are they going to do with a real 615 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:42,710 enemy plane if they can't bring down a 616 00:27:47,710 --> 00:27:45,370 weather balloon with 12 pound 617 00:27:49,930 --> 00:27:47,720 anti-aircraft shrapnel you know what 618 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:49,940 shrapnel it's like a grenade but it's 12 619 00:27:58,900 --> 00:27:54,290 pound tub 12 pounds worth of grenade and 620 00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,910 they had direct hits on it they hit near 621 00:28:01,330 --> 00:28:00,080 it and everything else if it was a 622 00:28:03,250 --> 00:28:01,340 weather balloon or ripped it to shreds 623 00:28:06,190 --> 00:28:03,260 like in seconds you know there's like a 624 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:06,200 chance in it though did it no it lasted 625 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:08,090 for three hours the child well we're 626 00:28:11,020 --> 00:28:09,770 gonna have to go to our first break here 627 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:11,030 you guys you're listening to me howdy 628 00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:12,770 how's the outlander an inception radio 629 00:28:18,940 --> 00:28:17,150 network and we'll be right back welcome 630 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:18,950 back everybody you listen to me heidi 631 00:28:23,050 --> 00:28:20,960 hollis the outlander remembering always 632 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:23,060 if it's weird we're here and we're 633 00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:24,530 giving you advice and insight and 634 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:26,630 outlandish topics and the phone lines 635 00:28:33,730 --> 00:28:28,970 are open at one eight eight eight nine 636 00:28:36,270 --> 00:28:33,740 one nine 2355 so I've got Jose escamilla 637 00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:36,280 and we are talking about rods and 638 00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:39,350 debunkers that really really need their 639 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:41,870 own show just to call it what it is the 640 00:28:45,610 --> 00:28:44,210 debunking shows because I think they 641 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:45,620 should have a network the debunking 642 00:28:50,890 --> 00:28:48,050 network because there's so many of us 643 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:50,900 who are just getting peeved from you 644 00:28:56,380 --> 00:28:53,210 know we give over our life's work only 645 00:28:59,320 --> 00:28:56,390 for them to take a crap on it it's like 646 00:29:01,300 --> 00:28:59,330 what really you think I dedicated my 647 00:29:04,270 --> 00:29:01,310 life to this just because I'm an idiot 648 00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:04,280 huh I mean I just don't get it I mean 649 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:06,470 it's it's amazing but we're also talking 650 00:29:11,310 --> 00:29:09,290 about the battle of Los Angeles and I 651 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:11,320 wanted to give your website out there 652 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:15,830 your website is TBL n as in Nancy films 653 00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:19,010 com so people can follow along and check 654 00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:21,710 out your documentaries and let's pick up 655 00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:23,990 where we left off the battle of Los 656 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:25,940 Angeles you're doing a film on that huh 657 00:29:32,260 --> 00:29:29,570 yes yes I'm uh we're in discussions 658 00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:32,270 right now with a group that's going to 659 00:29:36,370 --> 00:29:34,760 possibly put a 30 million dollar budget 660 00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:36,380 behind it and who 661 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:38,260 deal with Universal Studios so we're 662 00:29:44,050 --> 00:29:41,510 crossing our fingers and our toes oh my 663 00:29:46,390 --> 00:29:44,060 gosh that's yes yeah and this is a we 664 00:29:48,910 --> 00:29:46,400 already signed a deal memo with this 665 00:29:51,670 --> 00:29:48,920 company so we're giving them like three 666 00:29:53,730 --> 00:29:51,680 to six months to organize this and put 667 00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:53,740 the deal together and it goes down Heidi 668 00:29:59,140 --> 00:29:56,960 this movie is gonna blast a man because 669 00:30:01,900 --> 00:29:59,150 this was a true story it happened right 670 00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:01,910 you know right so as I was saying they 671 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:04,760 took these Nordic type creatures and the 672 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:08,570 the the ufos the mystery planes to an 673 00:30:14,410 --> 00:30:10,970 area in Northern Nevada which now is 674 00:30:18,970 --> 00:30:14,420 area 51 and also one of the things that 675 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:18,980 was amazing is that while they were 676 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:22,970 shooting up this object it just stayed 677 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:25,930 there just hovered it did not retaliate 678 00:30:31,690 --> 00:30:29,810 okay really one of the generals said 679 00:30:33,670 --> 00:30:31,700 later on in the more in the newspaper he 680 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,680 said know if that was uh that would have 681 00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:35,120 been Japanese they would have destroyed 682 00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:38,990 us you know right and they said whatever 683 00:30:44,140 --> 00:30:42,680 that was it's interplanetary this it has 684 00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:44,150 got to be out of this world you know and 685 00:30:51,070 --> 00:30:47,840 I there are some people that are still 686 00:30:52,690 --> 00:30:51,080 living that I've met that are gonna 687 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:52,700 consult you know they're going to be 688 00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:55,850 involved in the film but that's one of 689 00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:57,710 the projects man that's it's one of my 690 00:31:02,110 --> 00:30:59,600 major projects that i want to get done 691 00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:02,120 and i want to do it right and being a i 692 00:31:06,460 --> 00:31:03,910 was originally going to do a documentary 693 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,470 uh-huh and have some nice effects and 694 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:08,960 all that but right i decided look if 695 00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:11,810 this could be done full-on feature it'll 696 00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:13,550 be bigger than Close Encounters and 697 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:16,580 independence day oh yeah you know what 698 00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:19,010 I'm thinking Jose I I just have this 699 00:31:26,050 --> 00:31:23,240 feeling because I I've seen a big 700 00:31:28,690 --> 00:31:26,060 mothership myself and I mean something 701 00:31:30,190 --> 00:31:28,700 that took up the entire sky that when 702 00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:30,200 you looked up that's all you could see 703 00:31:34,450 --> 00:31:32,960 hmm and you know I've been doing this 704 00:31:37,650 --> 00:31:34,460 for a while and I'm from Milwaukee 705 00:31:40,090 --> 00:31:37,660 Wisconsin and and I bumped into you know 706 00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,100 these random people and they have the 707 00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,320 most incredible stories and and I'll 708 00:31:45,610 --> 00:31:44,000 never forget this one lady I bumped into 709 00:31:47,530 --> 00:31:45,620 she's like oh you're into UFOs I'm like 710 00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:47,540 yeah it's just like I saw an incredible 711 00:31:52,380 --> 00:31:50,230 sight and I've always wanted to 712 00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:52,390 he you know if there's anybody out there 713 00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:53,950 who can relate to what I saw and I'm 714 00:31:59,310 --> 00:31:56,350 like well what was it she said you know 715 00:32:01,320 --> 00:31:59,320 living in Milwaukee she was walking 716 00:32:03,090 --> 00:32:01,330 along by the by the lakefront and 717 00:32:06,780 --> 00:32:03,100 Milwaukee which is like Michigan still 718 00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:06,790 and there were several military guys 719 00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:10,840 sitting there filming this huge UFO that 720 00:32:14,909 --> 00:32:13,780 was right over the lake she said it was 721 00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:14,919 in the middle of the day so most people 722 00:32:18,419 --> 00:32:16,960 were at work and and she's just like 723 00:32:20,909 --> 00:32:18,429 that's incredible and they're like yeah 724 00:32:22,380 --> 00:32:20,919 she was talking to these guys like yeah 725 00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:22,390 we don't know what it is but we're 726 00:32:26,250 --> 00:32:24,190 trying to get as much information as we 727 00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:26,260 can and she said they were you know 728 00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:28,150 taking boats out there and they were 729 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:30,910 flying around it and she's like wow this 730 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:32,410 is neat but then I had to get to work 731 00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:36,250 she said it smell like like 1977 or 732 00:32:40,590 --> 00:32:37,990 something like that and she's like it 733 00:32:42,810 --> 00:32:40,600 i've never heard anything about it she 734 00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:42,820 said I just I just can't believe that no 735 00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:44,950 one else has seen this or spoken of it 736 00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:46,600 and I'm like I'm thinking that there's a 737 00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:49,000 lot of these odd you know things that 738 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:51,070 have been seen and since a lot of people 739 00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:52,330 weren't out like you said this was in 740 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:53,919 the middle of the night but that is Los 741 00:32:59,880 --> 00:32:57,250 Angeles people don't sleep there I mean 742 00:33:01,710 --> 00:32:59,890 people had to be aware and spotted out 743 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:01,720 the big one the big mothership that I 744 00:33:06,090 --> 00:33:04,450 saw was probably about 2 30 a.m. in the 745 00:33:07,860 --> 00:33:06,100 morning as well so maybe these things 746 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:07,870 like to creep out at night you know the 747 00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:09,730 big ones that can't hide behind clouds I 748 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:11,950 don't know that was that one I gotta 749 00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:14,190 tell you over a million people saw it 750 00:33:19,620 --> 00:33:16,990 nice but the military went door-to-door 751 00:33:22,409 --> 00:33:19,630 that next morning having the people that 752 00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:22,419 witnessed this to not say anything until 753 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:25,270 after the war to keep it quiet because 754 00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:27,610 of the war effort so a lot of pieces so 755 00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:29,710 patriotic and they believed in 756 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:31,120 government and military in those days 757 00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:32,650 that they would not lie to them so 758 00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:34,900 course but there were people that told 759 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:37,360 the top man and the news reporters were 760 00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:39,370 on it and they were on it man there and 761 00:33:43,470 --> 00:33:41,710 I've got some incredible descriptions 762 00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:43,480 that you know i'm using in the film it's 763 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:45,360 just going to be an awesome movie and 764 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:48,010 back to the to UF of the greatest story 765 00:33:56,340 --> 00:33:51,910 ever denied mm-hmm once I did that film 766 00:34:00,120 --> 00:33:56,350 I had to do a segment on the moon okay 767 00:34:02,130 --> 00:34:00,130 because there have been reports that you 768 00:34:03,539 --> 00:34:02,140 know astronaut saw UFOs and this kind of 769 00:34:07,819 --> 00:34:03,549 deal so I said I'm going to do 770 00:34:10,319 --> 00:34:07,829 segment on the moon and I did a movie 771 00:34:12,450 --> 00:34:10,329 produced a movie called moon rising 772 00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:12,460 which is UFO the greatest story of 773 00:34:20,490 --> 00:34:16,049 denied part 2 moon rising right and 774 00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:20,500 that's entirely about the moon and when 775 00:34:28,770 --> 00:34:23,730 I was doing a moon rising I had a scene 776 00:34:32,220 --> 00:34:28,780 that I wanted to put a shot of the moon 777 00:34:33,930 --> 00:34:32,230 from Earth and then us traveling up to 778 00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:33,940 the moon through the atmosphere and 779 00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:36,639 coming up on the moon about 70 miles 780 00:34:43,859 --> 00:34:38,409 above the surface which is very close 781 00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:43,869 okay well I have a 3d program i use 782 00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:47,049 called cinema 4d it's used for you know 783 00:34:51,299 --> 00:34:49,240 building models and sculpting them and 784 00:34:53,970 --> 00:34:51,309 creating dinosaurs and things like this 785 00:34:56,190 --> 00:34:53,980 and then putting them in motion and so a 786 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:56,200 simple thing to do would be to make a 787 00:35:04,380 --> 00:34:58,450 moon because it's just a sphere all 788 00:35:06,839 --> 00:35:04,390 right so I contact my my friend uh Tom 789 00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:06,849 Morga is a veteran stuntman he's worked 790 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:09,369 on Star Trek all the series man he's a 791 00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:11,890 major veteran stuntman I asked of us 792 00:35:16,170 --> 00:35:13,390 said hey give me some people that work 793 00:35:17,549 --> 00:35:16,180 on Star Trek and Battlestar you know so 794 00:35:19,230 --> 00:35:17,559 he gave me a couple of numbers of 795 00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:19,240 special-effects guys because I wanted to 796 00:35:25,650 --> 00:35:23,230 get a realistic moon and I earth and I I 797 00:35:28,289 --> 00:35:25,660 called these guys I said hey what where 798 00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:28,299 do you guys go to get a all these 799 00:35:33,089 --> 00:35:30,339 planets you know and Saturn and all that 800 00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:33,099 the realistic planets that using a star 801 00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:34,980 trek and galactic on they kept saying 802 00:35:42,359 --> 00:35:40,630 map a planet dot orga hey they all 803 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:42,369 pointed me to that they said oh man we 804 00:35:46,289 --> 00:35:44,410 get all that for free I thought I was 805 00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:46,299 gonna have to pay something I said now 806 00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:49,900 man just go to map a planet dot org so 807 00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:51,609 your viewer your listeners can go there 808 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:54,460 too right now and what it is I went 809 00:36:01,380 --> 00:35:56,650 there and I saw the Earth Jupiter and 810 00:36:03,569 --> 00:36:01,390 Mars and Saturn and the moon okay so up 811 00:36:05,099 --> 00:36:03,579 until that time I thought the moon was 812 00:36:07,770 --> 00:36:05,109 black and white and gray just like 813 00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:07,780 everyone else okay so i clicked on the 814 00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:10,569 moon icon it goes me to another landing 815 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:12,790 page and on that page there's a variety 816 00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:14,770 of different types of photography done 817 00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:17,140 on the moon they have gray scale they 818 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:20,470 of black and white and smack dab in the 819 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:24,970 middle they have natural color knife all 820 00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:27,250 right and the next picture was false 821 00:36:32,819 --> 00:36:30,160 color and infrared and the you know just 822 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,829 goes on to different varieties of shots 823 00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:34,720 of the moon but I go wow this is curious 824 00:36:40,109 --> 00:36:37,599 the natural color of the moon so I 825 00:36:44,130 --> 00:36:40,119 clicked on that and this was in February 826 00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:44,140 2009 I'll never forget this this was the 827 00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:47,260 day that my whole perception of our moon 828 00:36:54,089 --> 00:36:50,260 changed forever because I clicked on the 829 00:36:55,650 --> 00:36:54,099 natural color and I found the map of the 830 00:36:59,309 --> 00:36:55,660 moon now the map of the moon is 831 00:37:02,250 --> 00:36:59,319 flattened out okay and what happens is 832 00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:02,260 we get that flattened out image and then 833 00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:04,390 we wrap it around the sphere and it now 834 00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:09,369 becomes a realistic moon so I started 835 00:37:14,279 --> 00:37:11,440 looking at this stuff and I go holy Kim 836 00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:14,289 and of the moon has been full of color 837 00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:17,230 all along we've been told as black and 838 00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:22,750 white so I downloaded the whole the 839 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:24,940 whole volume of photos all right i 840 00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:28,630 called them plates but their photos 48 841 00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:32,920 inches by 35 inches that's huge that's 842 00:37:40,259 --> 00:37:35,710 how big each photo is i downloaded the 843 00:37:44,910 --> 00:37:40,269 complete moon okay if i was to lay out 844 00:37:46,650 --> 00:37:44,920 these the map of the moon it would be 845 00:37:51,390 --> 00:37:46,660 almost as large as a football field you 846 00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:51,400 know right so um man it's huge and may 847 00:37:55,620 --> 00:37:54,220 be smaller but cash that's it but i 848 00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:55,630 downloaded these and I'm glad I did 849 00:37:59,609 --> 00:37:57,250 because they're large enough where I can 850 00:38:01,890 --> 00:37:59,619 zoom in with the camera up close and 851 00:38:04,890 --> 00:38:01,900 personal a lot of this photography was 852 00:38:09,749 --> 00:38:04,900 taken from 78 miles from the surface of 853 00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:09,759 the Moon and here's the thing black and 854 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:11,470 white people ask well why would they lie 855 00:38:15,509 --> 00:38:13,450 to us why would they say that the mood 856 00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:15,519 is black and white is because black and 857 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:17,910 white you don't have depth perception 858 00:38:23,549 --> 00:38:21,970 when you see white dust looking things 859 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:23,559 you just automatically write it off as 860 00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:26,890 dust you know or dirt right but in color 861 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:29,860 that dirt becomes clouds 862 00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:33,670 all right okay comes here becomes fog or 863 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:37,480 clouds and uh also in full color I 864 00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:39,730 started looking at things and found 865 00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:42,670 cities up there in the front side of the 866 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:46,960 moon a fun date yeah yeah they're in my 867 00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:48,880 film called celestial and you can see 868 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:51,280 some of the stuff in moon rising I was 869 00:38:55,860 --> 00:38:53,530 totally in shock about the full color of 870 00:38:58,980 --> 00:38:55,870 the moon gosh it's a beautiful place oh 871 00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,990 my goodness so I mean when you say 872 00:39:01,890 --> 00:39:00,400 cities I mean what are we talking about 873 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:01,900 it's something that looks like you know 874 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:06,370 ancient Egypt type of mana there I don't 875 00:39:13,610 --> 00:39:08,530 know they're strange looking buildings 876 00:39:16,530 --> 00:39:13,620 and things up there I mean but there's 877 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:16,540 city-wide of them you know they're huge 878 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:19,330 i mean as an example i found gold 879 00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:21,730 mountains up there mountains made of 880 00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:24,550 solid gold Wow okay that's the color 881 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:26,320 photography shows that in black and 882 00:39:32,850 --> 00:39:29,410 white it just looks like you know rocks 883 00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:32,860 or you know mountains but not gold and 884 00:39:39,810 --> 00:39:37,240 then there's in even an around arc made 885 00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:39,820 out of solid gold that's sticking up 886 00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:42,340 it's probably about six miles high from 887 00:39:46,890 --> 00:39:44,710 the surface of the Moon who built that 888 00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:46,900 what it's there for who knows I also 889 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:51,040 found two statues that are about six or 890 00:39:57,330 --> 00:39:54,010 seven miles high and they're right there 891 00:40:00,060 --> 00:39:57,340 the humanoid-looking okay in this 892 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:00,070 particular photography everything's 893 00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:02,410 changed though here and then I found 894 00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:06,520 some Egyptian like statues that are 895 00:40:11,250 --> 00:40:08,950 about six or seven miles high and they 896 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:11,260 look just like Egyptians you know they 897 00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:12,730 have the skirt they have the headdress 898 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:14,710 and they're holding what appears to be 899 00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:17,890 Spears you know right on this is in the 900 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:20,380 front side of the moon there's also 901 00:40:26,580 --> 00:40:24,010 craters up there doppel Meyer you guys 902 00:40:31,950 --> 00:40:26,590 can look that up on the Internet doppel 903 00:40:34,290 --> 00:40:31,960 Meyer and in the film there's a huge 904 00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:34,300 dome and then there's buildings in there 905 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:36,070 and there's even a tower that has the 906 00:40:43,950 --> 00:40:41,290 number two on it okay and this crater is 907 00:40:47,310 --> 00:40:43,960 like about I think it's like 50 908 00:40:50,010 --> 00:40:47,320 two miles in diameter so these buildings 909 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:50,020 are huge and so is that Tower I mean 910 00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:52,060 it's amazing I had you her seen or heard 911 00:40:58,020 --> 00:40:55,630 of this new footage that Joshua Warren 912 00:41:01,829 --> 00:40:58,030 he came on my show speaking about there 913 00:41:04,589 --> 00:41:01,839 was a special on the moon and this tower 914 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:04,599 that seemed to be puffing smoke or 915 00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:06,640 something just in urging something you 916 00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:08,830 did see this yeah yeah Bob kiveat 917 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:11,560 produced that and he kind of screwed me 918 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:14,170 man I was he and I I've been doing 919 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:17,890 research for him to get this show on the 920 00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:19,630 air and I was supposed to be a part of 921 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:22,390 it all right but it's typical Hollywood 922 00:41:26,849 --> 00:41:23,770 man you know you got these people that 923 00:41:28,859 --> 00:41:26,859 are greedy and you know I just I just 924 00:41:30,990 --> 00:41:28,869 lost total respect for this guy you know 925 00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:31,000 you know what's interesting when I had 926 00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:34,420 Josh on I had a story that again this is 927 00:41:40,530 --> 00:41:36,760 one of those spontaneous random meetings 928 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:40,540 of people and it was this this 929 00:41:46,829 --> 00:41:43,930 ex-military guy and he was responsible 930 00:41:50,609 --> 00:41:46,839 for repairing a specific type of 931 00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:50,619 computer of some sort and he had to go 932 00:41:56,670 --> 00:41:53,230 down to I want to say it was in Florida 933 00:42:02,370 --> 00:41:56,680 somewhere to repair this computer and he 934 00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:02,380 was escorted by a young soldier to go in 935 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:04,780 and fix this and as he's been escorted 936 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:07,450 through this base or NASA and I can't 937 00:42:12,990 --> 00:42:10,930 recall where it was he saw these 938 00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:13,000 dignitaries from these these people from 939 00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:14,560 all over the world and you know learn 940 00:42:18,510 --> 00:42:16,390 but he's gathering and walking by him 941 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:18,520 and he's recognizing like that so and so 942 00:42:21,630 --> 00:42:20,410 and that's so until he's he said he 943 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:21,640 could tell that the soldier that was 944 00:42:25,890 --> 00:42:24,250 guiding it was really nervous and and he 945 00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:25,900 was like something big is going down a 946 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:29,230 lot of activity he gets guided to this 947 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:31,570 this computer he was needing to repair 948 00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:34,690 and he's being it was the soldier 949 00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:36,430 standing guard and and but they're both 950 00:42:42,030 --> 00:42:39,040 young and and he said I could tell he 951 00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:42,040 needed to vent about what was going on 952 00:42:48,990 --> 00:42:45,550 and he bent over as I'm fixing this 953 00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:49,000 machine and he said they found something 954 00:42:56,620 --> 00:42:52,390 on the moon this was 1967 and it 955 00:42:58,990 --> 00:42:56,630 correlated with Joshua's footage and I'm 956 00:43:02,350 --> 00:42:59,000 you've got to be kidding me this is this 957 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:02,360 is crazy and he's like whatever it was 958 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:05,090 they were really shaken up by the whole 959 00:43:10,660 --> 00:43:07,370 thing and he said I knew that he'd 960 00:43:11,710 --> 00:43:10,670 broken the rules and I didn't want to 961 00:43:13,210 --> 00:43:11,720 get in trouble he didn't to get in 962 00:43:16,030 --> 00:43:13,220 trouble so we just buttoned up i 963 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:16,040 finished my job and i left but it's just 964 00:43:22,780 --> 00:43:19,370 a strangest thing it's like wow you know 965 00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:22,790 why I i'm so getting so tired of asking 966 00:43:27,730 --> 00:43:25,280 why hide this because they think we're 967 00:43:29,230 --> 00:43:27,740 idiots and we can't handle it I'm like 968 00:43:31,450 --> 00:43:29,240 who runs the government and who's the 969 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:31,460 military people people are handling it 970 00:43:35,170 --> 00:43:33,170 just finally been handling it for years 971 00:43:37,630 --> 00:43:35,180 why don't they just tell the rest of us 972 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:37,640 instead of trying to place the rules on 973 00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:40,970 what we should know it's crazy well you 974 00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:43,910 know when they found something on the 975 00:43:47,380 --> 00:43:45,680 moon and they don't want to share it 976 00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:47,390 with any other space agencies all over 977 00:43:53,350 --> 00:43:50,240 the world so what they found was very 978 00:43:55,780 --> 00:43:53,360 very incredible so now you have Japan 979 00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:55,790 spending billions of dollars going up to 980 00:44:00,070 --> 00:43:58,370 the moon you have India and China and 981 00:44:02,980 --> 00:44:00,080 what are they doing looking are you 982 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:02,990 gonna be retrieving moon dust and rocks 983 00:44:09,010 --> 00:44:06,530 no no no there's something there that's 984 00:44:11,170 --> 00:44:09,020 very valuable and very mysterious that 985 00:44:13,150 --> 00:44:11,180 they all want a part of maybe it's the 986 00:44:15,730 --> 00:44:13,160 gold I mean there's mountains and 987 00:44:17,620 --> 00:44:15,740 mountains of gold shiny rocks they're 988 00:44:20,740 --> 00:44:17,630 gonna go for shiny rocks it's like come 989 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:20,750 on yeah it's more going on billions of 990 00:44:28,270 --> 00:44:25,280 dollars for a rock no no so anyway I 991 00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:28,280 found out doing moon rising that 992 00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:31,040 ninety-eight percent of all the Apollo 993 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:35,510 photography the orbiter photography has 994 00:44:41,530 --> 00:44:38,690 been tampered with by NASA they erased 995 00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:41,540 believe it backgrounds they airbrush 996 00:44:46,810 --> 00:44:44,960 stuff out I mean however this 997 00:44:48,340 --> 00:44:46,820 photography that I have from the 998 00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:48,350 Clementine mission which took place in 999 00:44:53,770 --> 00:44:51,920 1994 on the far side of the Moon there's 1000 00:44:57,550 --> 00:44:53,780 a crater that kept coming up in the 1001 00:45:00,850 --> 00:44:57,560 Apollo photographs all right and there's 1002 00:45:02,590 --> 00:45:00,860 a there's a photograph that's been 1003 00:45:05,410 --> 00:45:02,600 around on the internet for like the last 1004 00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:05,420 eight years whatever and there's this 1005 00:45:10,299 --> 00:45:07,550 crater that looks like there's a giant 1006 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:10,309 spaceship that's leaning sideways 1007 00:45:15,759 --> 00:45:12,410 on the edge of the crater you've 1008 00:45:16,989 --> 00:45:15,769 probably seen it I said you know I'm 1009 00:45:19,150 --> 00:45:16,999 going to find this crater with a 1010 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:19,160 Clementine stuff and see if it's full 1011 00:45:22,539 --> 00:45:21,170 color and whatever well that photograph 1012 00:45:24,849 --> 00:45:22,549 was full color but it was published 1013 00:45:28,089 --> 00:45:24,859 upside down and it was all washed out 1014 00:45:30,849 --> 00:45:28,099 they brought up a brightness when they 1015 00:45:32,949 --> 00:45:30,859 released it upside down and you can't 1016 00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:32,959 see details you know so I took it and 1017 00:45:37,929 --> 00:45:36,079 put it right side up and I brought the 1018 00:45:40,359 --> 00:45:37,939 contrast in and brought the the 1019 00:45:43,929 --> 00:45:40,369 brightness down him and added the end 1020 00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:43,939 color corrected it auto color and it 1021 00:45:49,179 --> 00:45:47,049 turned into a color photo of this huge 1022 00:45:53,319 --> 00:45:49,189 spaceship looking thing that's leaning 1023 00:45:54,789 --> 00:45:53,329 sideways on this crater so I started 1024 00:45:56,229 --> 00:45:54,799 looking at it and I go I wonder what the 1025 00:45:58,329 --> 00:45:56,239 name of this crater is because they did 1026 00:46:03,370 --> 00:45:58,339 not mention it in this published photo 1027 00:46:06,219 --> 00:46:03,380 and I wouldn't got a map of the far side 1028 00:46:08,650 --> 00:46:06,229 of the moon that had names on it okay 1029 00:46:11,140 --> 00:46:08,660 it's not not the moon map but it is like 1030 00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:11,150 a road map right I said I found out that 1031 00:46:16,660 --> 00:46:14,689 this crater is called Lobo cheb ski so I 1032 00:46:19,779 --> 00:46:16,670 looked it up and sure enough there's 1033 00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:19,789 this huge ship looking thing and this 1034 00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:23,660 was taken by Apollo 17 on December of 1035 00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:26,689 1972 it was the last time that we went 1036 00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:29,630 to the moon Apollo 17 I looked through 1037 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:31,369 all the archives and I started looking 1038 00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:34,729 at all the Apollo missions took photos 1039 00:46:40,569 --> 00:46:37,369 of the same crater there's been an 1040 00:46:43,179 --> 00:46:40,579 interest in it since the original Apollo 1041 00:46:45,459 --> 00:46:43,189 missions they've made it a point to 1042 00:46:49,019 --> 00:46:45,469 photograph Lobo jet ski well here's the 1043 00:46:52,359 --> 00:46:49,029 here's the neat thing that I discovered 1044 00:46:55,539 --> 00:46:52,369 apollo 16 took place in april of 1045 00:46:56,859 --> 00:46:55,549 nineteen seventy-two okay and they 1046 00:46:59,650 --> 00:46:56,869 photographed and published a 1047 00:47:02,579 --> 00:46:59,660 high-resolution full-color photo of lava 1048 00:47:06,999 --> 00:47:02,589 cheve ski but what this thing is in 1049 00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:07,009 eight months before on apollo 16 it was 1050 00:47:12,549 --> 00:47:09,529 not there it was an excavation going on 1051 00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:12,559 by the strange looking machine haha and 1052 00:47:17,799 --> 00:47:14,089 it looks like would be a tower with a 1053 00:47:20,859 --> 00:47:17,809 cross now whoever or whatever built this 1054 00:47:22,839 --> 00:47:20,869 thing they built it in six months eight 1055 00:47:24,190 --> 00:47:22,849 months I'm sorry in eight months from 1056 00:47:26,890 --> 00:47:24,200 April 72 to 1057 00:47:30,730 --> 00:47:26,900 number 72 they built the structure that 1058 00:47:34,420 --> 00:47:30,740 is six miles high in 10 miles wide gosh 1059 00:47:36,370 --> 00:47:34,430 imagine that dr. Magnus and that's 1060 00:47:38,349 --> 00:47:36,380 impossible here on earth no one even 1061 00:47:41,020 --> 00:47:38,359 Donald Trump with all the money in the 1062 00:47:43,930 --> 00:47:41,030 world could not build build a structure 1063 00:47:47,530 --> 00:47:43,940 like that you know uh in eight months 1064 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:47,540 this thing was not there and eight 1065 00:47:51,490 --> 00:47:49,490 months later there it is that it's huge 1066 00:47:53,770 --> 00:47:51,500 man my goodness a you know I've got a 1067 00:47:56,740 --> 00:47:53,780 peculiar question for you because I've 1068 00:47:59,230 --> 00:47:56,750 always felt that something was not right 1069 00:48:01,150 --> 00:47:59,240 about our moon I mean if I came into the 1070 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:01,160 room and I had my hands behind my back 1071 00:48:06,250 --> 00:48:04,010 as if I was hiding something and every 1072 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:06,260 time I walked around you I kept the same 1073 00:48:09,940 --> 00:48:08,210 position with something hidden behind my 1074 00:48:12,430 --> 00:48:09,950 back wouldn't you think that I was 1075 00:48:15,849 --> 00:48:12,440 hiding something this is what the moon 1076 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:15,859 is able to do it acts like no other moon 1077 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:17,810 in our universe from what i understand 1078 00:48:23,620 --> 00:48:21,050 that shows the same face all the way 1079 00:48:25,810 --> 00:48:23,630 around it spins on the access perfectly 1080 00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:25,820 I mean it don't think I was natural it 1081 00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:28,040 does rotate you know it does but it 1082 00:48:34,059 --> 00:48:31,540 rotates just enough it rotates sideways 1083 00:48:38,589 --> 00:48:34,069 it doesn't rotate like the earth does 1084 00:48:40,690 --> 00:48:38,599 right but other moons in sideways am I 1085 00:48:43,780 --> 00:48:40,700 am i right that other moon sets that 1086 00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:43,790 circulate other orbit other planets do 1087 00:48:49,089 --> 00:48:47,359 rotate fully yes but the rotation of 1088 00:48:52,349 --> 00:48:49,099 this moon is different very different 1089 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:52,359 it's a no chaining like a clock like a 1090 00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:55,250 like a clock you know the needle own 1091 00:49:00,280 --> 00:48:58,400 clock right do you think much you think 1092 00:49:02,620 --> 00:49:00,290 this is a natural thing I mean do you 1093 00:49:06,730 --> 00:49:02,630 think something's up with our moon well 1094 00:49:09,130 --> 00:49:06,740 that's the moon's um behavior that's the 1095 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:09,140 boobs uh moon's gig man it just it just 1096 00:49:14,050 --> 00:49:11,450 rotates counterclockwise and then back 1097 00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:14,060 to clockwise yes it does there's a 1098 00:49:19,690 --> 00:49:16,390 there's the speculation that it's not a 1099 00:49:21,819 --> 00:49:19,700 naturally occurring type-moon because of 1100 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:21,829 how it does spin well scientists found 1101 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:24,290 out that the moon they did tests on the 1102 00:49:28,750 --> 00:49:27,050 dirt and the dust and rocks and they 1103 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:28,760 found out that the moon is older than 1104 00:49:35,710 --> 00:49:33,650 Earth yeah yeah much older said it's 1105 00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:35,720 impossible that it crashed into Earth 1106 00:49:39,730 --> 00:49:37,710 and then became a round moon 1107 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:39,740 that's a bunch of BS amel Arnie man 1108 00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:42,690 they're lying to us man that's not what 1109 00:49:49,150 --> 00:49:45,200 happened i think it was brought their 1110 00:49:52,310 --> 00:49:49,160 dragons and and here's the thing too 1111 00:49:55,370 --> 00:49:52,320 they crashed a spaceship onto the moon's 1112 00:49:58,540 --> 00:49:55,380 surface and it rang like a bell for 1113 00:50:01,070 --> 00:49:58,550 hours meaning it could be Hollow 1114 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:01,080 scientists at MIT said there's a 1115 00:50:05,570 --> 00:50:03,330 possibility that the moon is hollow they 1116 00:50:08,359 --> 00:50:05,580 also found out because the astronauts 1117 00:50:11,180 --> 00:50:08,369 were trying to drill on the surface they 1118 00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:11,190 found out that the moon is largely made 1119 00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:15,599 up of titanium steel oh alright so Wow 1120 00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:17,160 so what I was saying is this like a 1121 00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:19,260 space station like deep space 9 from 1122 00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:21,240 Star Trek or something well it 1123 00:50:26,810 --> 00:50:23,849 definitely sounds like it could be 1124 00:50:29,540 --> 00:50:26,820 something like that you know it does 1125 00:50:32,930 --> 00:50:29,550 have full color and it's beautiful I 1126 00:50:36,140 --> 00:50:32,940 mean beautiful colors and you know there 1127 00:50:40,339 --> 00:50:36,150 are things called Mars ma re s on the 1128 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:40,349 moon Mars modest means ocean and Latin 1129 00:50:46,130 --> 00:50:43,650 and in Spanish okay and they are blue 1130 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:46,140 and it appears that there's things 1131 00:50:50,930 --> 00:50:48,450 underwater there when you see the full 1132 00:50:52,579 --> 00:50:50,940 color version alright in black and white 1133 00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:52,589 you just don't catch it you know but in 1134 00:50:57,890 --> 00:50:55,020 color you can seem to see things like 1135 00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:57,900 they're underwater you know structures 1136 00:51:02,839 --> 00:51:00,240 and things yeah oh I'm gonna sell look 1137 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:02,849 at that whenever the film to watch and 1138 00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:06,210 it's on my website TBL n films com is 1139 00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:08,310 celestial that's my latest movie that I 1140 00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,510 did latest release in 2012 and it has 1141 00:51:17,150 --> 00:51:14,400 all this information and stuff and the 1142 00:51:18,349 --> 00:51:17,160 towers and man is just amazing some of 1143 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:18,359 the structures that are on the surface 1144 00:51:22,250 --> 00:51:19,890 of the moon on the far side and the 1145 00:51:23,780 --> 00:51:22,260 front side you know goodness and this 1146 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:23,790 could be ordered there have you had 1147 00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:27,570 showings any place I you know I first 1148 00:51:32,510 --> 00:51:30,510 released it in 2012 during the 1149 00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:32,520 anniversary 60th anniversary of the 1150 00:51:41,180 --> 00:51:36,630 Apollo nursing and I only put it out 1151 00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:41,190 there up from July 21st till New Year's 1152 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:44,070 Eve you know till January first then I 1153 00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:45,570 took it off youtube it was on YouTube 1154 00:51:51,620 --> 00:51:49,250 for free but now it's on my on my 1155 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:51,630 channel basically and it's a paper 1156 00:51:55,130 --> 00:51:53,250 you you can get it for like five bucks 1157 00:51:57,260 --> 00:51:55,140 or four dollars i don't know i don't 1158 00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:57,270 remember or you can join i have a 1159 00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:00,240 membership thing okay i have a free 1160 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:03,630 membership where you can see some of my 1161 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:05,250 movies for free it doesn't cost you 1162 00:52:09,170 --> 00:52:06,810 anything and you can become a free 1163 00:52:12,050 --> 00:52:09,180 member and then or you can be come a 1164 00:52:14,540 --> 00:52:12,060 gold member where you can for 599 a 1165 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:14,550 month you get to have access to all my 1166 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:17,730 stuff all my movies all my content I 1167 00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:20,010 have a full raj archive there that shows 1168 00:52:24,530 --> 00:52:22,140 clips of rods on the moon things of this 1169 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:24,540 nature clips that i'm including in the 1170 00:52:30,650 --> 00:52:27,090 movie they live in the skies and when i 1171 00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:30,660 finish that film of the rods they'll get 1172 00:52:34,490 --> 00:52:32,550 to see the premiere for free you know if 1173 00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:34,500 you're a gold member otherwise you're 1174 00:52:40,190 --> 00:52:37,920 gonna pay like 12 nineteen ninety-five 1175 00:52:42,350 --> 00:52:40,200 you know for the world premiere is there 1176 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:42,360 also are you raising money for any of 1177 00:52:47,660 --> 00:52:44,250 your films that you might need help i 1178 00:52:49,460 --> 00:52:47,670 yes i have crowdfunding nice a TV ln 1179 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:49,470 films and and you know this is a way of 1180 00:52:54,140 --> 00:52:51,810 made a lot of my movies is that people 1181 00:52:57,230 --> 00:52:54,150 buy movie credits they by executive 1182 00:52:58,670 --> 00:52:57,240 producer credits all the way to special 1183 00:53:00,980 --> 00:52:58,680 thanks credits you're not the end of the 1184 00:53:02,930 --> 00:53:00,990 movie all right you know so they could 1185 00:53:04,430 --> 00:53:02,940 go to your website to get that okay well 1186 00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:04,440 we're gonna get to our next break you 1187 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:05,910 guys listen to me Heidi house the 1188 00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:07,650 Outlander and inception radio network 1189 00:53:11,690 --> 00:53:10,110 and we will be right back who welcome 1190 00:53:14,060 --> 00:53:11,700 back everybody you listen to me heidi 1191 00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:14,070 hollis d outlander remembering always if 1192 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:16,710 it's weird we're here and we are talking 1193 00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:20,370 to jose escamilla on rods and the moon 1194 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:23,910 and the Battle of La I made my goodness 1195 00:53:28,340 --> 00:53:26,490 you've got a lot of information um you 1196 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:28,350 know we're just discussing during the 1197 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:30,690 break here is this is just kind of 1198 00:53:33,620 --> 00:53:32,010 mind-blowing it's like just cross my 1199 00:53:37,070 --> 00:53:33,630 mind I've mentioned many times here on 1200 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:37,080 on the show I was a was a part of this 1201 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:40,770 this TV show pilot series called X ops 1202 00:53:45,850 --> 00:53:43,290 for Discovery Channel and we got some 1203 00:53:49,570 --> 00:53:45,860 really incredible footage of something 1204 00:53:51,980 --> 00:53:49,580 long kind of looking like a centipede 1205 00:53:55,130 --> 00:53:51,990 crawling swimming through the air and it 1206 00:53:57,380 --> 00:53:55,140 was humongous and it was at in roswell 1207 00:54:00,080 --> 00:53:57,390 new mexico at one of the hangars where 1208 00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:00,090 the bodies of the aliens were reportedly 1209 00:54:05,220 --> 00:54:03,180 taken to and I gosh you know we got such 1210 00:54:08,550 --> 00:54:05,230 cool footage and we never got this 1211 00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:08,560 out there and like duh here's Jose and 1212 00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:10,060 you're saying that this sounds like a 1213 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:12,670 rod huh absolutely because they do like 1214 00:54:17,490 --> 00:54:15,130 look like centipedes in the air they 1215 00:54:20,250 --> 00:54:17,500 have the ambulatory wave fins which 1216 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:20,260 resemble what a centipede looks like you 1217 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:22,450 know this almost looked like legs it was 1218 00:54:26,730 --> 00:54:24,730 so weird and it's just so bizarre so I 1219 00:54:28,590 --> 00:54:26,740 gave you the information of the guide to 1220 00:54:32,130 --> 00:54:28,600 get ahold of down there in LA autism 1221 00:54:33,870 --> 00:54:32,140 this footage yeah because it's it's like 1222 00:54:37,550 --> 00:54:33,880 it would be a crying shame it never gets 1223 00:54:41,370 --> 00:54:37,560 put out there just amazing stuff but um 1224 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:41,380 you know your things that you've been 1225 00:54:46,290 --> 00:54:43,690 working on and I've got some questions 1226 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:46,300 here from the chat room that I want to 1227 00:54:52,349 --> 00:54:49,450 address too it's just it's so 1228 00:54:55,050 --> 00:54:52,359 unbelievable that this wasn't discovered 1229 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:55,060 before you and one of the questions from 1230 00:54:58,380 --> 00:54:56,770 the chat room is you know the cameras 1231 00:55:01,050 --> 00:54:58,390 were invented you know almost 150 years 1232 00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:01,060 ago if you found any antique photos of 1233 00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:03,280 rods that accidentally popped up 1234 00:55:09,930 --> 00:55:06,160 somewhere oh heck yeah we have 1235 00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:09,940 photographs of Aboriginal cave art Wow 1236 00:55:14,970 --> 00:55:12,609 where there's some stick figures that 1237 00:55:18,180 --> 00:55:14,980 appear to be throwing spears into the 1238 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:18,190 sky and there was an archaeologist did a 1239 00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:20,770 presentation in Mesquite Nevada and that 1240 00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:22,240 was the first time I ever presented runs 1241 00:55:28,349 --> 00:55:26,590 back in 1994 November 94 and he had the 1242 00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:28,359 slide show I didn't attend it because I 1243 00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,270 was busy and all that but he said that 1244 00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:33,040 all these years he thought they were 1245 00:55:38,220 --> 00:55:35,460 throwing these Spears in the sky okay 1246 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:38,230 birds or something they said but the 1247 00:55:44,130 --> 00:55:40,090 spears look like they had feathers all 1248 00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:44,140 along the sides of the torso okay so he 1249 00:55:48,270 --> 00:55:46,240 says after I saw Jose escamilla is Raj 1250 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:48,280 he says that's what they're doing 1251 00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:49,570 they're not throwing things they're 1252 00:55:57,599 --> 00:55:54,910 pointing at the rods of the sky so ha 1253 00:56:01,640 --> 00:55:57,609 yeah we got that photograph of this cave 1254 00:56:03,450 --> 00:56:01,650 art 50,000 years ago 56,000 years ago so 1255 00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,460 interesting so do you think these things 1256 00:56:08,099 --> 00:56:05,440 were more apparent back then that way 1257 00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:08,109 yeah yeah you know because what what 1258 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:10,720 happens now is we're so confused we are 1259 00:56:17,370 --> 00:56:14,770 so uh our brains are so conditioned to 1260 00:56:19,020 --> 00:56:17,380 be you know go to work get up drink 1261 00:56:20,850 --> 00:56:19,030 coffee smoke cigarette go to where 1262 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:20,860 come back home what get beer and watch 1263 00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:28,590 routine that most of America has you 1264 00:56:33,450 --> 00:56:29,920 know and they don't look up in the skies 1265 00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:33,460 back then they had no politics that had 1266 00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:35,920 no crap that was pushed into their 1267 00:56:44,370 --> 00:56:39,550 brains right and they they were hunters 1268 00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:44,380 so they had to have acute acuity in 1269 00:56:49,140 --> 00:56:46,240 their eyesight they had to be able to 1270 00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:49,150 see something in the brush or in the sky 1271 00:56:54,930 --> 00:56:52,720 and shoot it down so acuity yeah in 1272 00:56:57,150 --> 00:56:54,940 those days like I said they were not 1273 00:56:59,460 --> 00:56:57,160 hammered by all this crap that we have 1274 00:57:02,310 --> 00:56:59,470 you know but that was the earliest photo 1275 00:57:04,050 --> 00:57:02,320 that we know what we have artwork of we 1276 00:57:07,260 --> 00:57:04,060 have rock carvings from a thousand years 1277 00:57:09,150 --> 00:57:07,270 ago in Argentina and they have drawings 1278 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:09,160 of what appear to be rods if I was to 1279 00:57:14,310 --> 00:57:12,370 draw you a rod on a in a bar on a napkin 1280 00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:14,320 it would be looking just like what we 1281 00:57:21,870 --> 00:57:17,190 have in Argentina and then we have 1282 00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:21,880 photography of back 1996 and that was a 1283 00:57:29,130 --> 00:57:25,390 photograph of a rod alright and then we 1284 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:29,140 have 1929 there's a race going on and 1285 00:57:34,590 --> 00:57:31,450 there's a rod right there in the sky you 1286 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:34,600 know photographed all right uh I mean we 1287 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:36,370 have this is all going to be in the film 1288 00:57:42,420 --> 00:57:40,450 they live in the skies love it gosh that 1289 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:42,430 sounds fascinating and your and the cool 1290 00:57:49,530 --> 00:57:45,730 thing for anybody that that missed it 1291 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:49,540 you said for 599 people can watch all of 1292 00:57:54,810 --> 00:57:52,930 your films yeah that I have access to 1293 00:57:57,180 --> 00:57:54,820 footage that I'm going to include in the 1294 00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:57,190 movie before it's done so they'll be 1295 00:58:01,950 --> 00:57:58,810 able to see the stuff you know and it's 1296 00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:01,960 incredible stuff I mean hey once you see 1297 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:03,790 a rod the way it really looks like you 1298 00:58:08,250 --> 00:58:05,650 know and this is another thing too i'm 1299 00:58:11,850 --> 00:58:08,260 going to show how shooting at night a 1300 00:58:14,310 --> 00:58:11,860 moth member taser rod but you can tell a 1301 00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:14,320 difference even rods at night are 1302 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:18,070 totally different okay so we're going to 1303 00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:20,610 close the deal on on rods random people 1304 00:58:26,130 --> 00:58:22,900 this film is going to be a Paragon 1305 00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:26,140 changer because we're proving that there 1306 00:58:32,670 --> 00:58:29,680 exists among us a creature or a species 1307 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:32,680 or an unknown thing of some kind 1308 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:36,730 is prevalent in our planet okay we're 1309 00:58:43,410 --> 00:58:39,970 proving that it's real so this opens a 1310 00:58:45,210 --> 00:58:43,420 paradigm shift and you know unidentified 1311 00:58:48,210 --> 00:58:45,220 flying objects I have to say something 1312 00:58:51,319 --> 00:58:48,220 to Jose it's like I understand you know 1313 00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:51,329 with the debunking and and how you know 1314 00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:53,920 detrimental that can be to somebody you 1315 00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:56,710 know like yourself who I could tell from 1316 00:59:01,740 --> 00:58:58,450 the way that you speak about this was so 1317 00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:01,750 much passion that this is your baby you 1318 00:59:06,930 --> 00:59:03,369 would do this in your sleep if you could 1319 00:59:09,660 --> 00:59:06,940 it's just it drives you and you want to 1320 00:59:12,299 --> 00:59:09,670 share the reality that we're really in 1321 00:59:14,490 --> 00:59:12,309 so I mean for those of us that that 1322 00:59:16,290 --> 00:59:14,500 would see a show like that and like wow 1323 00:59:18,270 --> 00:59:16,300 that was interesting I think that we 1324 00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:18,280 would have the common sense to realize 1325 00:59:24,270 --> 00:59:21,790 you know why would he have done this you 1326 00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,280 know and and and you know spoken and and 1327 00:59:29,609 --> 00:59:26,559 driven this into the people's minds for 1328 00:59:31,650 --> 00:59:29,619 so many years just for them to hear have 1329 00:59:34,349 --> 00:59:31,660 a crack at it and debunk it I mean it's 1330 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:34,359 just I think most of us realize you know 1331 00:59:39,630 --> 00:59:36,250 that you're coming from a place of truth 1332 00:59:41,309 --> 00:59:39,640 and honesty and truly trying to do the 1333 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:41,319 human kind of service so I mean I 1334 00:59:44,730 --> 00:59:42,970 commend you for your efforts like I mean 1335 00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:44,740 I I know this is what you're doing so 1336 00:59:49,049 --> 00:59:46,809 truly thank you this is well thank you 1337 00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:49,059 yes the reason is is because I've seen 1338 00:59:53,010 --> 00:59:51,369 them with a naked eye all right and i've 1339 00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:53,020 had people standing right next to me 1340 00:59:58,500 --> 00:59:55,119 what we saw this rod that last pass 1341 01:00:01,230 --> 00:59:58,510 right by us okay and they go wow that 1342 01:00:03,420 --> 01:00:01,240 was a rod holy can they freaked out you 1343 01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:03,430 know but then now they know that these 1344 01:00:09,870 --> 01:00:04,809 things exist and they see them all the 1345 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:09,880 time now and I mean plus technology has 1346 01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:11,490 finally caught up to the UFO phenomenon 1347 01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:15,369 okay we now have the ability to film in 1348 01:00:22,170 --> 01:00:18,160 broad daylight using infrared and 1349 01:00:25,710 --> 01:00:22,180 ultraviolet filters on cameras Shang 1350 01:00:27,870 --> 01:00:25,720 gutrot out of New Orleans is also in the 1351 01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:27,880 film they live in the skies and he's 1352 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:32,079 filmed squadrons of Rods okay squads of 1353 01:00:38,250 --> 01:00:35,170 these things man an infrared which is 1354 01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:38,260 invisible to the naked eye all right he 1355 01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:41,849 also did a smart thing he filmed insects 1356 01:00:46,380 --> 01:00:44,200 okay with the same camera in the 1357 01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:46,390 infrared he filmed birds 1358 01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:49,750 he filmed dragonflies and he fell rods 1359 01:00:56,490 --> 01:00:52,960 and there's a certain footprint to every 1360 01:00:59,220 --> 01:00:56,500 creature right an insect is an insect a 1361 01:01:03,930 --> 01:00:59,230 bird is a bird dragonflies a dragonfly a 1362 01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:03,940 rod is Iran so he submitted an enormous 1363 01:01:07,099 --> 01:01:05,440 amount of footage which is going to be 1364 01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:07,109 in the film they live in the skies and 1365 01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:09,430 there's another gentleman that's out 1366 01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:14,559 there filming that has some important 1367 01:01:22,289 --> 01:01:17,920 footage too and I think your chat guy 1368 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:22,299 asks the question okay uh well yeah 1369 01:01:26,370 --> 01:01:24,010 there's there's a few of them here I'm 1370 01:01:29,490 --> 01:01:26,380 going through them I you know I want to 1371 01:01:31,799 --> 01:01:29,500 ask you though to first is there a best 1372 01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:31,809 way to see these things or a best 1373 01:01:37,140 --> 01:01:35,529 location to see these well you know 1374 01:01:38,759 --> 01:01:37,150 these things are appearing everywhere if 1375 01:01:44,250 --> 01:01:38,769 if you have wrought activity in your 1376 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:44,260 area if you see something in the in your 1377 01:01:48,450 --> 01:01:46,450 eye peripheral we're in front of the 1378 01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:48,460 passes by real fast or dark or a Hawaii 1379 01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:50,529 object or a streak and you look you 1380 01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:52,180 think it's a flyer or an insect and 1381 01:01:56,849 --> 01:01:54,910 there's nothing there that was a rod but 1382 01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:56,859 that's how you see them you can also see 1383 01:02:03,109 --> 01:01:58,960 them a lot of people are filming using 1384 01:02:06,089 --> 01:02:03,119 the eve of the roof hot blocking the Sun 1385 01:02:08,460 --> 01:02:06,099 okay mm-hmm locking the Sun with a roof 1386 01:02:10,499 --> 01:02:08,470 edge and you can look up there with the 1387 01:02:12,779 --> 01:02:10,509 naked eye put on sunglasses and you'll 1388 01:02:15,450 --> 01:02:12,789 start seeing streaks you'll see rods up 1389 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:15,460 there you'll see cottonwood or cotton or 1390 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:18,490 dirt dust particles you'll see insects 1391 01:02:22,890 --> 01:02:20,170 and ass but then you'll occasionally see 1392 01:02:25,620 --> 01:02:22,900 a dark rod or a white right in there 1393 01:02:27,839 --> 01:02:25,630 I've seen since I was a kid and I don't 1394 01:02:31,289 --> 01:02:27,849 know what this is but especially when 1395 01:02:34,620 --> 01:02:31,299 you look against a pale blue sky or a 1396 01:02:37,859 --> 01:02:34,630 white pale background or something it 1397 01:02:40,650 --> 01:02:37,869 looks like dancing molecules almost worm 1398 01:02:43,740 --> 01:02:40,660 like moving together like the whole air 1399 01:02:45,930 --> 01:02:43,750 as full of them and I'm like is are my 1400 01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:45,940 eyes playing tricks on me no I trust my 1401 01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:48,880 eyes I can drive a car so I just never 1402 01:02:53,849 --> 01:02:50,799 can understand what that is but they 1403 01:02:56,519 --> 01:02:53,859 don't zip past like a rod I ya know know 1404 01:02:59,730 --> 01:02:56,529 that what what you're seeing is your 1405 01:03:02,280 --> 01:02:59,740 your eyes have liquid in them 1406 01:03:04,380 --> 01:03:02,290 in creating this uh this gelatinous 1407 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:04,390 looking thing like jelly or something 1408 01:03:08,970 --> 01:03:06,610 you know but those are not rods know 1409 01:03:11,010 --> 01:03:08,980 right awesome so you're saying that's a 1410 01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:11,020 that's an optical illusion almost as if 1411 01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:12,640 your eyes are projecting but I can look 1412 01:03:17,609 --> 01:03:15,760 around and they seem to be it's just 1413 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:17,619 such a strange thing I I just never 1414 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:19,810 could understand what is that yeah it 1415 01:03:23,310 --> 01:03:21,850 seems to change it look like worms or 1416 01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:23,320 something you know all crawling and 1417 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:24,910 everything else in the sky but that's 1418 01:03:31,470 --> 01:03:29,290 just your eyeballs presenting the liquid 1419 01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:31,480 in your eyes and you know yeah I mean 1420 01:03:34,980 --> 01:03:33,340 people have told me floaters and whatnot 1421 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:34,990 I'm like these don't look like floaters 1422 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:36,970 I don't know but I'll have to look into 1423 01:03:40,740 --> 01:03:38,650 that further but I I hear what you're 1424 01:03:43,740 --> 01:03:40,750 saying and I have some other questions 1425 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:43,750 here for you I'm there's somebody's 1426 01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:45,490 asking if you've ever collaborated with 1427 01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:47,830 Wilbur Allen and if you share his theory 1428 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:50,160 that the rods enter some sort of portal 1429 01:03:54,330 --> 01:03:52,570 absolutely he's in my film he's going to 1430 01:03:56,370 --> 01:03:54,340 be and they live in the skies and I have 1431 01:03:58,700 --> 01:03:56,380 an enormous amount of footage that he's 1432 01:04:01,320 --> 01:03:58,710 contributing he's going to be in it and 1433 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:01,330 yeah you can see in his footage any by 1434 01:04:06,510 --> 01:04:03,490 the way he's using the same type of 1435 01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:06,520 cameras that nASA uses on the 1436 01:04:11,810 --> 01:04:08,830 International Space Station you've seen 1437 01:04:14,849 --> 01:04:11,820 the quality of the nighttime footage 1438 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:14,859 okay over from the International Space 1439 01:04:19,710 --> 01:04:17,530 Station as beautiful color man well he's 1440 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:19,720 using the same type of camera he's got 1441 01:04:29,940 --> 01:04:25,810 the ISO of settings the same way as NASA 1442 01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:29,950 but like 280,000 is 0 which is enormous 1443 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:33,760 man it brings out the darkness it turns 1444 01:04:38,670 --> 01:04:36,250 it into a visual thing where you can 1445 01:04:41,820 --> 01:04:38,680 y'all almost mistake it for being gone 1446 01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:41,830 you know but it brings out the sky and 1447 01:04:48,450 --> 01:04:45,910 he's filming rods and other UFOs right 1448 01:04:51,390 --> 01:04:48,460 over Washington DC in the no-fly zone 1449 01:04:53,220 --> 01:04:51,400 above the White House but the Pentagon 1450 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:53,230 he's filling these rods using this 1451 01:04:59,520 --> 01:04:57,250 camera and you can see rods coming out 1452 01:05:03,180 --> 01:04:59,530 of nowhere and then they go out into 1453 01:05:04,620 --> 01:05:03,190 nowhere I mean that could be a portal 1454 01:05:07,410 --> 01:05:04,630 maybe that's how they come into our 1455 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:07,420 reality you know I have footage that I 1456 01:05:13,470 --> 01:05:10,410 shot at Midway New Mexico back in 1994 1457 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:13,480 where a rod comes a clear 1458 01:05:19,220 --> 01:05:15,850 blue sky right Arad comes out of nowhere 1459 01:05:21,660 --> 01:05:19,230 and it appears to be like a white ribbon 1460 01:05:24,930 --> 01:05:21,670 okay but it comes out of nowhere and 1461 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:24,940 goes into nowhere so perhaps they have 1462 01:05:31,109 --> 01:05:27,850 that ability I mean if you look at speed 1463 01:05:33,060 --> 01:05:31,119 the speed that these things take the do 1464 01:05:35,099 --> 01:05:33,070 I wouldn't doubt if they'd be able to 1465 01:05:37,050 --> 01:05:35,109 penetrate another dimension you know 1466 01:05:39,030 --> 01:05:37,060 maybe that's where they come from have 1467 01:05:41,310 --> 01:05:39,040 you noticed them to ever be around like 1468 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:41,320 a haunted location because I went into a 1469 01:05:46,140 --> 01:05:44,290 place and got some odd photos I'd have 1470 01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:46,150 to find him again but they they were 1471 01:05:50,940 --> 01:05:48,880 like lit up though these these like 1472 01:05:54,359 --> 01:05:50,950 stick like things like almost a little 1473 01:05:56,430 --> 01:05:54,369 greenish glowing yeah there's a there's 1474 01:05:59,880 --> 01:05:56,440 a lot of activity in haunted houses and 1475 01:06:01,440 --> 01:05:59,890 places were adrenaline the the 1476 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:01,450 adrenaline is super high you know like 1477 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:03,130 with base jumpers and paratroop 1478 01:06:10,830 --> 01:06:08,410 parachuters Barry Conrad filmed a lady 1479 01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:10,840 her name was Hernandez it was a big 1480 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:12,460 haunting that happened in San Pedro it's 1481 01:06:18,750 --> 01:06:15,490 been on TV but there's this rod that 1482 01:06:21,390 --> 01:06:18,760 appears to enter this woman's head okay 1483 01:06:23,070 --> 01:06:21,400 but that's not what happened because I 1484 01:06:25,230 --> 01:06:23,080 looked at it carefully and what it is 1485 01:06:28,020 --> 01:06:25,240 it's a white rod when the sunlight hits 1486 01:06:31,859 --> 01:06:28,030 it and it goes past her head but turns 1487 01:06:35,820 --> 01:06:31,869 into a black rod well but her hair is 1488 01:06:37,470 --> 01:06:35,830 black with dark brown so people only see 1489 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:37,480 it it goes so fast it looks like it went 1490 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:39,690 through her head but that's not the case 1491 01:06:44,670 --> 01:06:43,330 you know so uh back for that footage is 1492 01:06:46,290 --> 01:06:44,680 going to be in my film they live in the 1493 01:06:49,230 --> 01:06:46,300 skies because I'm covering everything 1494 01:06:50,820 --> 01:06:49,240 that I've done I even have footage that 1495 01:06:52,349 --> 01:06:50,830 I've never released to the public that's 1496 01:06:54,980 --> 01:06:52,359 going to be in this film that's just 1497 01:06:57,780 --> 01:06:54,990 gonna turn debunkers into little goats 1498 01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:57,790 all right without mama they're you know 1499 01:07:03,090 --> 01:06:59,680 they're gonna crawl under the crock they 1500 01:07:04,740 --> 01:07:03,100 came out of so uh this film is going to 1501 01:07:06,599 --> 01:07:04,750 prove that rods are real and that's the 1502 01:07:09,930 --> 01:07:06,609 end of it I mean it there's nothing they 1503 01:07:12,599 --> 01:07:09,940 can do or say to try to debunk the 1504 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:12,609 high-speed footage we now have in 4k 1505 01:07:18,090 --> 01:07:14,650 resolution that's the end of that noise 1506 01:07:21,030 --> 01:07:18,100 man I love it have you ever combined or 1507 01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:21,040 looked into the topic of orbs oh yeah 1508 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:24,609 I'm glad you brought that up tomorrow 1509 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:26,890 night there's a halloween party going on 1510 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:27,250 at this 1511 01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:30,490 haunted mansion place and my friend 1512 01:07:37,410 --> 01:07:34,060 David solace hired me to go with her in 1513 01:07:38,850 --> 01:07:37,420 film what happens at this mansion and 1514 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:38,860 everything else and his guests and all 1515 01:07:43,590 --> 01:07:40,690 that he's got a lot of funny stuff there 1516 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:43,600 but I have his camera with me right now 1517 01:07:50,550 --> 01:07:47,890 and at two o'clock this morning I was up 1518 01:07:52,710 --> 01:07:50,560 you know i'm always up I was up all 1519 01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:52,720 night so I said you know what I'm gonna 1520 01:07:56,460 --> 01:07:54,160 put this camera on a tripod and use the 1521 01:07:59,400 --> 01:07:56,470 flash you see I've got or if have orb 1522 01:08:02,700 --> 01:07:59,410 activity here you know all right plus 1523 01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:02,710 you know i want to tell you i have two 1524 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:05,440 people that I want to make a film on the 1525 01:08:11,060 --> 01:08:08,770 orbs it's honey Metcalfe's she's out of 1526 01:08:15,180 --> 01:08:11,070 Oregon and there's a lady named Patricia 1527 01:08:17,490 --> 01:08:15,190 Robles out of Santa Barbara they have 1528 01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:17,500 been filming the most incredible orbs 1529 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:20,080 man so what I want to do is I want to go 1530 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:22,170 there with a camera array and set up 1531 01:08:27,930 --> 01:08:26,290 high speed cam and film them using a 1532 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:27,940 strobe light so that we can see their 1533 01:08:34,590 --> 01:08:31,210 movement well yeah the flash is just one 1534 01:08:36,570 --> 01:08:34,600 one shot but a strobe light will 1535 01:08:39,180 --> 01:08:36,580 illuminate them enough to where we take 1536 01:08:41,999 --> 01:08:39,190 snapshots BAM uh like this has a 1537 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:42,009 continuous snapchat where shoot snapshot 1538 01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:45,130 every two seconds bam bam bam bam but 1539 01:08:47,849 --> 01:08:46,480 the flash doesn't work on the camera 1540 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:47,859 that way a strobe light will do the 1541 01:08:51,809 --> 01:08:49,690 trick but we'll be able to see these 1542 01:08:55,499 --> 01:08:51,819 things in motion and that will eliminate 1543 01:08:57,930 --> 01:08:55,509 the dust particle things that debunkers 1544 01:09:00,180 --> 01:08:57,940 are saying they are and I'm saying its 1545 01:09:02,970 --> 01:09:00,190 moisture in the air and all that kind of 1546 01:09:05,579 --> 01:09:02,980 crap oh yeah this will eliminate it but 1547 01:09:08,099 --> 01:09:05,589 I went out this morning I set up a 1548 01:09:10,190 --> 01:09:08,109 camera and rather than filming straight 1549 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:10,200 ahead i filmed up into the tree tops 1550 01:09:16,890 --> 01:09:14,650 okay and snap snap snap snap snap and 1551 01:09:19,769 --> 01:09:16,900 sure enough there's orbs here I've got 1552 01:09:24,570 --> 01:09:19,779 orb activity but they're high up in the 1553 01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,580 sky okay and a train the camera I've got 1554 01:09:30,329 --> 01:09:26,319 some power lines that are next door and 1555 01:09:32,430 --> 01:09:30,339 there's orb activity there so um it's 1556 01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:32,440 amazing it's amazing orbs an older 1557 01:09:37,470 --> 01:09:35,440 another real oh yeah you know I'll tell 1558 01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:37,480 you a quick story I was down and at the 1559 01:09:40,780 --> 01:09:40,000 UFO ozark conference with a group of 1560 01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:40,790 friends and 1561 01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:43,040 and one of the locals today there's a 1562 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:44,480 place over here has a lot of orb 1563 01:09:48,070 --> 01:09:46,250 activity it's like okay cool I'll go 1564 01:09:49,930 --> 01:09:48,080 with a group of friends and and it was 1565 01:09:51,820 --> 01:09:49,940 you know the Sun was still out it was 1566 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:51,830 starting to go down and meet my friends 1567 01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:53,330 are like okay you know pretend you're 1568 01:09:57,610 --> 01:09:55,490 looking up at a UFO or something I 1569 01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:57,620 snapped this picture and I had a camera 1570 01:10:03,550 --> 01:10:00,080 that was uh you know as a disposable at 1571 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:03,560 the time and and taking pictures and and 1572 01:10:07,900 --> 01:10:05,570 then we're like okay pretend like you're 1573 01:10:10,810 --> 01:10:07,910 holding the orb and and I totally wasn't 1574 01:10:13,780 --> 01:10:10,820 able to see you know what was what was 1575 01:10:18,370 --> 01:10:13,790 transcribing here and when I got these 1576 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:18,380 pictures it was like what big orb over 1577 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:19,610 their heads like they're looking at a 1578 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:22,610 UFO oh you know what that time it was a 1579 01:10:27,070 --> 01:10:24,890 little itty bit it was I remember that 1580 01:10:29,140 --> 01:10:27,080 was not my disposable that was my my 1581 01:10:31,180 --> 01:10:29,150 little in a tiny tiny little screen and 1582 01:10:33,130 --> 01:10:31,190 I was like not able to really see what 1583 01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:33,140 we're getting and I'm like I think 1584 01:10:35,860 --> 01:10:34,400 there's something above your heads and 1585 01:10:37,450 --> 01:10:35,870 then I'm like I tell this one guy 1586 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:37,460 pretend let you know tell the orbs to go 1587 01:10:41,530 --> 01:10:39,770 on your hands goes in his hands and I'm 1588 01:10:43,870 --> 01:10:41,540 like I'm trying to take a picture to 1589 01:10:45,310 --> 01:10:43,880 have this happen and it wasn't happening 1590 01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:45,320 I said you know what I feel like they 1591 01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:48,110 don't want me to do that and I I'm just 1592 01:10:52,750 --> 01:10:50,510 gonna put my hands down it landed on my 1593 01:10:54,220 --> 01:10:52,760 head I mean it was just the most 1594 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:54,230 incredible thing and it was so 1595 01:10:57,190 --> 01:10:55,850 frustrating because I couldn't see it 1596 01:10:59,410 --> 01:10:57,200 really clear because we had such an itty 1597 01:11:01,540 --> 01:10:59,420 bitty screen but getting those developed 1598 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:01,550 wow just mind-blowing it's like they 1599 01:11:07,690 --> 01:11:04,850 communicate well in my 44th birthday i 1600 01:11:10,750 --> 01:11:07,700 was in denver colorado in a basement and 1601 01:11:12,450 --> 01:11:10,760 i was filming myself telling my friend 1602 01:11:14,620 --> 01:11:12,460 that i was sending him a video and 1603 01:11:17,470 --> 01:11:14,630 abacus i don't see any of this book i 1604 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:17,480 said hey today's my 44th birthday happy 1605 01:11:21,850 --> 01:11:19,610 birthday to me and i'll talk to you 1606 01:11:25,060 --> 01:11:21,860 later well in that footage there's orbs 1607 01:11:27,370 --> 01:11:25,070 flying around my head Oh in front of me 1608 01:11:28,750 --> 01:11:27,380 orbs they're not insects because there 1609 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:28,760 was no insects and it was cold in 1610 01:11:33,730 --> 01:11:31,370 Colorado and there was no insect 1611 01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:33,740 activity in the basement for sure but 1612 01:11:37,630 --> 01:11:35,510 these things were round orbs and there 1613 01:11:39,610 --> 01:11:37,640 were about the size of a half-dollar 1614 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:39,620 maybe a little bigger and you can see 1615 01:11:44,860 --> 01:11:41,410 them right there broad daylight uh 1616 01:11:48,130 --> 01:11:44,870 flying in front of my mug it's a wild 1617 01:11:49,810 --> 01:11:48,140 it's wild yeah so tell us know so you're 1618 01:11:51,430 --> 01:11:49,820 you're you're working on a lot of 1619 01:11:53,950 --> 01:11:51,440 different projects I mean and you're 1620 01:11:55,090 --> 01:11:53,960 trying to you need funding for one more 1621 01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:55,100 project that you're working on 1622 01:11:59,020 --> 01:11:56,930 right now what is that project well I do 1623 01:12:00,910 --> 01:11:59,030 have a few projects in the works so one 1624 01:12:03,580 --> 01:12:00,920 of them is called UFOs from outer space 1625 01:12:06,700 --> 01:12:03,590 and it's going to star Sean stone which 1626 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:06,710 is Oliver Stone's son and gonna do the 1627 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:08,930 anchor on camera hosting and narration 1628 01:12:14,170 --> 01:12:12,770 and it's going to star Martin Stubbs who 1629 01:12:17,260 --> 01:12:14,180 was the guy that brought out all the 1630 01:12:19,450 --> 01:12:17,270 NASA footage oh that everybody's seen so 1631 01:12:22,030 --> 01:12:19,460 I got to go to Vancouver to film him and 1632 01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:22,040 then Kari Martinek who's a nasa 1633 01:12:26,890 --> 01:12:24,800 historian he's you get to know him in my 1634 01:12:28,570 --> 01:12:26,900 film moon rising he brought out a lot of 1635 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:28,580 information it's just incredible this 1636 01:12:33,730 --> 01:12:31,730 guy's great so we're making the filling 1637 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:33,740 UFOs from outer space and it all has 1638 01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:36,890 footage of UFOs taken in space there's 1639 01:12:42,190 --> 01:12:39,920 no footage in there taken from Earth all 1640 01:12:44,710 --> 01:12:42,200 right i'm gonna pop there's incredible 1641 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:44,720 things out in outer space man i mean 1642 01:12:51,490 --> 01:12:48,170 have you seen the space vines no oh my 1643 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:51,500 gosh man there's huge vines that look 1644 01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:54,530 like I don't know like jack and the bean 1645 01:13:00,760 --> 01:12:56,930 subtype vines but their cables they look 1646 01:13:03,310 --> 01:13:00,770 like cables and they stress for millions 1647 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:03,320 of miles I mean they I just have a 1648 01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:05,330 camera just going up and then it 1649 01:13:09,870 --> 01:13:07,280 branches out to the left you know and it 1650 01:13:12,580 --> 01:13:09,880 keeps going up and it's endless you know 1651 01:13:15,070 --> 01:13:12,590 I'm that's going to be in the film 1652 01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:15,080 there's also you know the objects that 1653 01:13:21,370 --> 01:13:18,110 are orbiting around the Sun you've heard 1654 01:13:23,490 --> 01:13:21,380 of those I'm sure yes and then there's 1655 01:13:25,690 --> 01:13:23,500 the stuff that's coming in from 1656 01:13:27,970 --> 01:13:25,700 light-years away from the other side of 1657 01:13:29,410 --> 01:13:27,980 Pluto there's some giant ships that are 1658 01:13:31,390 --> 01:13:29,420 coming towards Earth was supposed to 1659 01:13:35,770 --> 01:13:31,400 arrive here in twenty fifteen or twenty 1660 01:13:39,610 --> 01:13:35,780 sixteen and I'm chopping huge one object 1661 01:13:43,330 --> 01:13:39,620 is as large as Jupiter's width okay and 1662 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:43,340 that's coming from from Pluto and its 1663 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:46,730 shaped sort of like a battleship an 1664 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:48,410 aircraft carrier that's what is shaped 1665 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:51,170 like a speck its massive and you know 1666 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:52,850 this is going to be in the film so I'm 1667 01:13:56,530 --> 01:13:54,410 trying to raise money for that I need 1668 01:13:58,690 --> 01:13:56,540 money to send a camera crew to Vancouver 1669 01:14:00,130 --> 01:13:58,700 I might not go if I don't get enough 1670 01:14:03,010 --> 01:14:00,140 budget but i'll just send a camera crew 1671 01:14:06,340 --> 01:14:03,020 a higher camera crew here you know 1672 01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:06,350 digital cameras it's about 2,500 maybe 1673 01:14:10,870 --> 01:14:09,110 3,000 for a day's shoot 1674 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:10,880 and so you know that's like about 6,000 1675 01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:12,650 for two cameras and then I need for two 1676 01:14:19,660 --> 01:14:16,000 of two interviews and then I need 1677 01:14:22,379 --> 01:14:19,670 another 2,500 to film me and Sean stone 1678 01:14:25,419 --> 01:14:22,389 in a interior studio here in Burbank and 1679 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:25,429 then about thirty eight hundred dollars 1680 01:14:30,490 --> 01:14:27,650 for the music scores you know I might be 1681 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:30,500 able to get a cheaper license but it 1682 01:14:33,340 --> 01:14:31,850 costs money and that's the way I make 1683 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:33,350 these movies and what happens is you buy 1684 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:35,449 a movie credit you can become an 1685 01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:38,810 executive producer or a producer or a 1686 01:14:43,660 --> 01:14:40,960 co-producer or an associate producer 1687 01:14:46,270 --> 01:14:43,670 even special thanks for special thanks 1688 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:46,280 i'm selling special thanks you'll have 1689 01:14:50,379 --> 01:14:48,290 your name at the end credits for fifty 1690 01:14:52,540 --> 01:14:50,389 dollars i mean you know nice I heard it 1691 01:14:55,180 --> 01:14:52,550 I heard it's productive to go and hit up 1692 01:14:57,609 --> 01:14:55,190 Dennis because they just like have too 1693 01:14:59,530 --> 01:14:57,619 much money on their hands I'm going to 1694 01:15:02,370 --> 01:14:59,540 the dentist next week I'm gonna hit him 1695 01:15:04,750 --> 01:15:02,380 up there you go everything also i 1696 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:04,760 haven't eaten I think started off doing 1697 01:15:11,379 --> 01:15:09,290 that oh and I also have you know UFOs 1698 01:15:13,419 --> 01:15:11,389 amount of space and i also want to do 1699 01:15:15,580 --> 01:15:13,429 this orbs movie which requires me 1700 01:15:19,149 --> 01:15:15,590 purchasing a couple of high-speed 1701 01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,159 cameras you know and I mean I've got the 1702 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:21,440 locations to go to film orbs I mean we 1703 01:15:26,140 --> 01:15:23,570 got Patricia in Santa Barbara and then 1704 01:15:29,649 --> 01:15:26,150 we have honey metcalf in Oregon so 1705 01:15:31,540 --> 01:15:29,659 that's going to be done so everybody can 1706 01:15:35,260 --> 01:15:31,550 go to your website what is it again to 1707 01:15:38,919 --> 01:15:35,270 try to help fund these projects TBL n is 1708 01:15:42,129 --> 01:15:38,929 in Nancy films com awesome oh my 1709 01:15:44,770 --> 01:15:42,139 goodness it there's so much that you're 1710 01:15:47,109 --> 01:15:44,780 doing and you're so driven I mean it's 1711 01:15:48,939 --> 01:15:47,119 it's really nice to know that somebody 1712 01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:48,949 like yourself is out there doing what 1713 01:15:53,890 --> 01:15:51,190 you're doing so again I commend you and 1714 01:15:56,169 --> 01:15:53,900 jeez I mean it's any last thoughts that 1715 01:15:57,939 --> 01:15:56,179 you'd like to share with people well I 1716 01:16:00,430 --> 01:15:57,949 also have they live in the skies I need 1717 01:16:02,229 --> 01:16:00,440 funding for that ah there you go because 1718 01:16:06,879 --> 01:16:02,239 I want to go film Wilbur Allen in 1719 01:16:08,740 --> 01:16:06,889 Washington DC Sean gutrot in New Orleans 1720 01:16:09,850 --> 01:16:08,750 Louisiana I want to go to Roswell 1721 01:16:11,530 --> 01:16:09,860 because that's where I discovered the 1722 01:16:14,709 --> 01:16:11,540 rods and there's raw activity there in 1723 01:16:15,970 --> 01:16:14,719 multitudes and then certain parks here 1724 01:16:19,209 --> 01:16:15,980 in Southern California where there's a 1725 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:19,219 lot of rot activity but anything at 1726 01:16:23,010 --> 01:16:21,050 Chicago I want to drive out somewhere 1727 01:16:25,689 --> 01:16:23,020 and try to get a stick 1728 01:16:27,700 --> 01:16:25,699 well if there's the could be rod 1729 01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:27,710 activity i do have kind of footage from 1730 01:16:33,879 --> 01:16:32,000 canada okay that wasn't a cold place and 1731 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:33,889 it was during i mean winter i mean 1732 01:16:38,979 --> 01:16:35,690 there's no insects there and there's 1733 01:16:40,660 --> 01:16:38,989 rods all over this interior of this old 1734 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:40,670 shack that they said was haunted but 1735 01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:42,530 that's an interesting point it's 1736 01:16:47,770 --> 01:16:44,239 freezing and they're gonna call them 1737 01:16:49,770 --> 01:16:47,780 bugs yeah yeah those idiots i also have 1738 01:16:53,979 --> 01:16:49,780 footage that I want to license from imax 1739 01:16:57,069 --> 01:16:53,989 because there's this shot of a skull 1740 01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:57,079 adrenaline rush and there's these guys 1741 01:17:03,810 --> 01:17:00,159 that are jumping off the fjords of 1742 01:17:07,689 --> 01:17:03,820 norway and the fjords are like 4800 feet 1743 01:17:10,810 --> 01:17:07,699 above sea level there's snow okay 1744 01:17:12,609 --> 01:17:10,820 there's a helicopter that's filming from 1745 01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:12,619 above you know filming the guys that are 1746 01:17:18,609 --> 01:17:15,679 about to jump and as they're ready to 1747 01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:18,619 jump a white rod flies right over their 1748 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:20,480 heads across the screen from left to 1749 01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:23,449 right amazing I saw this in an IMAX film 1750 01:17:29,850 --> 01:17:26,030 and then after the jump there's another 1751 01:17:32,470 --> 01:17:29,860 smore flight rods that follow them okay 1752 01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:32,480 so I need to license that footage but 1753 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:34,159 they live in the skies is going to be 1754 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:37,130 awesome I Mary call there's a rod that 1755 01:17:44,169 --> 01:17:39,650 flies right through the helicopter 1756 01:17:46,959 --> 01:17:44,179 blades in the expendables 3 I love them 1757 01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:46,969 y'all gotta gather you've got my dancers 1758 01:17:51,399 --> 01:17:49,280 all together oh yeah yeah we've already 1759 01:17:52,959 --> 01:17:51,409 come to the bottom of our show Jose 1760 01:17:55,209 --> 01:17:52,969 Asami I want to thank you so much for 1761 01:17:56,709 --> 01:17:55,219 coming on this is a lot of fun alright 1762 01:17:58,839 --> 01:17:56,719 my final thought I just want to tell 1763 01:18:01,479 --> 01:17:58,849 everybody to keep looking up check out t 1764 01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:01,489 bln films become a member a free member 1765 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:03,920 you got movies you can watch for free or 1766 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:06,530 do a gold membership or pay-per-view 1767 01:18:11,919 --> 01:18:09,170 that's how I make my movies sounds good 1768 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:11,929 honey well thank you so much Jose truly 1769 01:18:18,459 --> 01:18:15,290 truly a pleasure oh you guys you know 1770 01:18:20,140 --> 01:18:18,469 we've come to the bottom of another show 1771 01:18:22,419 --> 01:18:20,150 isn't this crazy it goes really fast 1772 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:22,429 happy Halloween everybody you know don't 1773 01:18:27,310 --> 01:18:24,770 text and fly your broom sticks out there 1774 01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:27,320 tonight be careful don't text and drive 1775 01:18:31,620 --> 01:18:28,480 either 1776 01:18:33,630 --> 01:18:31,630 and you guys remember you can catch me 1777 01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:33,640 here every Friday 9 p.m. Eastern a p.m. 1778 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:34,720 central you've been listening to me 1779 01:18:38,460 --> 01:18:36,489 Heidi how's the Outlander on inception